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Ronald Rothenberg Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Belmont,  MA

Date: December 3, 2010

<<< Editor's Note
Hey Ron, good to hear from you again. Are you still reading your e-mail by candlelight?John>>>

Howdy, John,

no, we finally took the big leap and got electricity and indoor plumbing about 2002. Welcome me to the 20th century.

bests

Ron Rothenberg

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Keith Shoemaker Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Jacksonville,  FL

Date: December 3, 2010

I have a 14" Toshiba for under 500 bucks that works great and is big enough to work on, but small enough to take with you. It is dual core, not i3 chip. It is last year's chip and works fine, especially if you are coming from an older laptop. Win7 is good too.

The 15" and bigger are lots of extra weight to drag around every day.

For only email, internet you do not need an i7 chip. Unless you have stock in Intel or are doing graphic design work.

Just my two cents..

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Brian Lange Information Technology,  CA

Date: December 4, 2010

I think you're right on the money Keith. If someone conducted some sort of blind test with notebook users I bet the majority would not know if they were using a i3, i5 or a i7 processor. And it probably doesn't matter for most if they are using 1,2, or 4 gigabytes of ram.

-Brian

 

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Ronny Geenen Real Estate ,  Glendora,  CA

Date: December 5, 2010

I think you're right on the money Keith. If someone conducted some sort of blind test with notebook users I bet the majority would not know if they were using a i3, i5 or a i7 processor. And it probably doesn't matter for most if they are using 1,2, or 4 gigabytes of ram.

-Brian



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Mark Claessens Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Coon Rapids,  MN

Date: December 5, 2010

This is not just for Brian, but a couple of others that have commented on this. I disagree with this finding 100%. I not only believe that but know that. But let's look at a realistic point.

If a group of us were to sit down, let's say four of us. Let's say we had a fairly speedy Pentium 4, a i3, i5,and i7.

If we were to boot up the machines there would be a clearly noticeable difference in the boot up speeds. I know we would see the same thing with the login speed, continuing until everything was loaded.

If we were to all double click on IE and access the same website, I know we would see that again.

But let's say that we all opened up 10 windows in IE, opened up a Word doc, an Excel doc, a Publisher doc, opened up a window to stream your favorite radio station live, opened up Outlook, and opened up Adobe Acrobat.

If we were all to get to the point where we all had everything operating the same, we would have already seen a big difference in speed. But add something to this. Let's say we had Norton doing a background scan and decided to open up Brian and Steve with their TBWS daily streaming video report. We could easily see the difference in reserve power and speed with that move. And if that were running let's say we took the publisher file and told it to print to a pdf file. You would see again a huge and marked difference in those 4 machines.

But you were not entirely wrong, Brian (and the rest) if it were just checking boot speed or login time or how many seconds to pull up a web page filled with graphics, or maybe to just propagate a report that took a little juice.

But that is maybe where individual needs vary. I don't live in that world. I live in the world where my Outlook and many other items are open and running. And even in outlook I have add-ins. I need my tasks to run smoothly and powerfully. Now, going from this NB I have now to my new i7 with all that dedicated VRAM and 6 GB of RAM and the faster quad core processor will probably move me into a small state of shock the first time I turn it on. But I deserve that, since I have patiently waited for a major reason to make this move.

Just sayin!

Mark


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Brian Lange Information Technology,  CA

Date: December 7, 2010

Thanks for the info Mark. You're points are valid however I think we would all notice a difference if we clicked on Google Chrome instead of IE. Google's browser is much better than Microsofts.

As for the laptop I purchased this Asus on amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0041RRVOG/ref=oss_product

It was fifty dollars cheaper during the black friday sale. It has the i7 processor and is a very speedy machine. The drawback is the battery life is not very good. I am lucky to get 90 minutes of battery life. Also the keyboard is cheap. The pluses are a great monitor and a slick design and the price is good for a i7 processor and 4 gigs of ram and a 1gb graphics card.

Would I recommend this laptop to a friend? Probably not. I would rather have spent more money for a machine with a better keyboard and longer battery life.

-Brian

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Cheryl Schlehuber Licensed Real Estate Broker,  St. Ignace,  MI

Date: February 1, 2011

Writing in to the laptop discussion from November. Enjoyed reading all the opinions and wondered if anyone has any more or new thoughts since the November discussion.

Writing in the dead of winter from the frozen Straits of Mackinac where I'm borrowing my 80 yr. old mothers laptop (LOL), until my recently deceased 2.5 yr. old Dell meets its new replacement.

Torn on what to replace with, really torn as I spend so much of my time on it, more than the husband, friends, kids, grandkids, etc. ....HP.....MAC (little pricey still). It's easier to buy a car!

Cheryl Schlehuber, Broker/Owner

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Martin Kanu Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Mountain House,  CA

Date: February 1, 2011

I have the DELL Touchpad E6410 and I love it...
 

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Mark Claessens Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Coon Rapids,  MN

Date: February 1, 2011

Yes, I remember them well, Cheryl, especially since I stuck my nose out there and didn't get paid for it J.

I would still recommend doing exactly what I proposed and actually did the first week of December. Go to HP.com, click on "Small & Medium Business", click on the first option for notebooks (http://www.hp.com/sbso/busproducts_notebooks.html ) and look at their lineup of computers. If you look up to the right or top center, you will see their SB number to call: 866-625-0242 .

Once I ran through my options I called up and explained to the sales guy exactly what I do and exactly what I need this notebook to do. He then asked me a series of questions and quickly said, "Okay, I already have it narrowed down to two models". And both were models I picked. His number one choice happened to also be my first choice. That made me feel good.

Then he walked me through the custom build process (i.e. the processor, the hard drive size, the RAM, etc.). We spent about 13 minutes going over all the different options and then he told me my "custom built total". I almost died! He was almost to $2400. But then I remembered . .. I am a member of the NAR and a business customer. He told me to relax and to give him 5 minutes. He came back with a great discount and sold me that system for $1440. Perfect. My goal was to stay under $1500.

It takes them about 2-3 weeks to have it custom built and shipped to you, but it is worth the wait to have everything in there that you want and need, and the most important thing: NOTHING that you don't want/need. And let me tell you, that guy dropped in the fastest quad core processor that Intel makes that they could get their hands on. And it is fast! I ordered the EliteBook 8540p, by the way. The graphics card has 1 GB of dedicated RAM and even the audio drivers are fantastic. When hooked up to my speaker system it sounds just as good as my $5500 stereo system. The graphics are full HD and I purchased dual monitors for my office that are full 1920x1080 HD monitors. I've never experienced things that nice.

Now, I did have an issue with a memory bank dump and the booting process, so right now they are custom building me a brand new one and shipping it right over to me. They said I just got a bad motherboard. The sent a tech over to my office, but they could not repair it. But the feedback I have received is that this 8540p is one of their best notebooks ever made. And I am quite confident that the new one will be just fine. I never have any issues with HP ever. Which is why I promote them so strongly and believe in them.

And although I am still re-ordering this with the 64 bit version of Windows 7 Professional, I would advise anyone getting a new notebook to just go with the 32 bit version. The sales guy told me that I would most likely not encounter any compatibility issues with this. He was wrong. Dead wrong. I had to upgrade many versions of software to 64 bit. And yes, they all work just fine now, but they weren't in the budget, especially Adobe Acrobat. But the good news is they are all fine and since I already did the upgrades, it is much easier to stick with the 64 bit now. But when I get it, I am NOT installing Office 2010 64 bit. I am installing the 32 bit version of that.

Just a few thoughts!

Mark

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Cheryl Schlehuber Licensed Real Estate Broker St. Ignace, MI

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Writing in to the laptop discussion from November. Enjoyed reading all the opinions and wondered if anyone has any more or new thoughts since the November discussion.

Writing in the dead of winter from the frozen Straits of Mackinac where I'm borrowing my 80 yr. old mothers laptop (LOL), until my recently deceased 2.5 yr. old Dell meets its new replacement.

Torn on what to replace with, really torn as I spend so much of my time on it, more than the husband, friends, kids, grandkids, etc. ....HP.....MAC (little pricey still). It's easier to buy a car!

Cheryl Schlehuber, Broker/Owner

Mackinac Properties, St. Ignace, Michigan

Cheryl@MackinacProperties.com

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Malcolm Waring Information Technology,  Stroudsburg,  PA

Date: February 3, 2011

Hold on a minute. You got a $2,400 high end HP for $1,500 but it died already and you have to get it replaced? Do you have to start from scratch and reinstall everything or will they just swap the hard drive?

On the one extreme I have a top end Macbook Pro that's almost 3 years old and I don't see any reason to replace it yet, unlike every top end Dell before it that never went that long without slowing down. The one that finally did me in was the Dell XPS Gen II which had pretty lights, but was an expensive top of the line dog with the worst support experience I have ever had from Dell (don't get me wrong, their server support is still top notch but forget about the rest).

For the other extreme, last summer I got my wife a Sony VAIO from BJ's for less than $600 running Win7 64 and it has just worked perfectly. She loves it.

So, if you need a laptop to get the job done in this business you don't need to spend anywhere near $1,500. If you want to spend that much, or really want something dependable then take a hard look at the Macbook Pro. It may cost more up front but there are a lot of things you don't have to pay for later. Not only that but you get real support on the phone or in person.

There isn't one thing we can't do now in real estate in our area that requires Windows, but I there is a learning curve when you switch to a Mac so make sure you are ready to make that commitment. Go to an Apple store and let the kids show you how it works.

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Cheryl Schlehuber Licensed Real Estate Broker,  St. Ignace,  MI

Date: February 3, 2011

Thanks for the thoughts Malcom....it was actually my 2 1/2 yr. old Dell Vostro that died not HP, and it was the video that died.

Thanks to a tip from a REAL TOWN member Patrick Hallsey who suggested it might be a faulty video chip and that he was aware of a class action law suit out on it, I started to research it. I found that it was covered in their lawsuit as an eligible model however when I tried to file a yesterday, the online submission said it was ineligible. A call to Dell customer support confirmed that is is an eligible model but they were couldn't get it to accept it either. They said I should e-mail Dell (overseas) who is the administrator for this suit (NVIDIA). One e-mail from them today but not in a language I could read so I've asked for follow up. To be continued....

I do agree that almost everything I do is on line so being able to work with many tabs open is the norm so the computer that is good with multitasking is most important. With 12 years of IBM computers and documents, I'm worried that the conversion to MAC is more than I want to tackle at this time.

Thanks for the continued suggestions everyone...

Cheryl Schlehuber

Mackinac Properties, St. Ignace, Michigan

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Malcolm Waring Information Technology,  Stroudsburg,  PA

Date: February 4, 2011

Hi Cheryl, that was Mark C in the post before mine who had a brand new HP go bad. Don't get a Mac if you are not ready but I usually have about 15 tabs open in chrome including gmail and calendar. Then another 5 or more in firefox for flexmls and real estate stuff. Then a few more safari windows with a bunch of tabs in each. I shut the lid and let it spin down and sleep to transport. Then open the lid for instant use even after sleeping on battery for days. I reboot every few weeks if I must, sometimes more if using Photoshop or lightroom.

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Suzanne Hathcock stephens Vendor,  Battle Ground,  WA

Date: February 4, 2011

Cheryl wrote:
With 12 years of IBM computers and documents, I'm worried that the conversion to MAC is more than I want to tackle at this time.
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Cheryl, it's SO easy to run Windows and Windows apps on a Mac that I hope you'll reconsider. Besides, what could be a better home to a Mac than a company named "Mackinac Properties".
 

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Cheryl Schlehuber Licensed Real Estate Broker,  St. Ignace,  MI

Date: February 6, 2011

Suzanne, Great connection with the MAC and the name Mackinac....now why do you think I never put those together....hmmm..sounds like a strange connection. Will take your advise and give it a test drive

Malcom, Thank you for sharing publicly that you have that many tabs open at once...spinning..yes that's the word that bests describe my affair with the computer, LOL! How many things can we really do at once and do them effectively. Still working on that...I'm sure it's a disease but how fun that we have control over it.....or maybe it's the other way around.

Cheryl Schlehuber

Mackinac Properties, St. Ignace, MI

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