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John Reilly, Real Estate Educator ,  San Diego,  CA

Date: April 25, 2011, Number of Replies: 35


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Hi everyone,

As outlined in a letter to NAR's Board of Directors , NAR's Executive Committee recommended to the Board of Directors that the REALTOR® Party Political Survival Initiative be funded with a $40 dues increase. The Executive Committee considered two proposals from the Finance Committee, including a proposal to use Public Awareness Campaign funds to support the initiative. "We believe both programs are so vital to our survival that we are unwilling to choose one over the other," the Executive Committee said April 12 in a letter to the NAR Board of Directors.

"Dear NAR Board of Directors,

The NAR Executive Committee met earlier today to consider two proposals from the Finance Committee regarding funding for the REALTOR® Party Political Survival Initiative:

Proposal "A":

The Political Survival Initiative is estimated to cost $195mm over 5 years. It is proposed that NAR Dues be increased by $40/year to fund the program. The funds will be accounted for separately to demonstrate that these are dedicated resources and will not be used for other operational purposes.

Proposal "B":

Eliminate the Public Awareness Campaign $35 Assessment and increase dues $35. The funds will be accounted for separately to demonstrate that these are dedicated resources and will not be used for other operational purposes.

While both options will be presented to the Board of Directors (on May 14th), after careful consideration, the Leadership Team and Executive Committee endorsed option A. We believe both programs - the REALTOR® Party Political Survival Initiative and the Public Awareness Campaign - are so vital to our survival that we are unwilling to choose one over the other."

Assuming you were a NAR Director, how would you vote on the proposed dues increase?

Well, here's your chance to voice your opinion. Later this week, we will e-mail a notice to all RealTown members with directions how to cast their digital vote. Keep your eye out for that e-mail sent to your RealTown.com primary address as it will contain your individual pin number using our "One Person One Voice" secure voting system.

We'll announce the cut-off date for the vote (likely May 5th). We will announce the results here shortly before the actual Board of Directors May 14th meeting (at the NAR Midyear Meetings in D.C.)

If you would like to receive an auto-responder with highlights from the many postings on RealTalk on the NAR Dues Increase issue, send a blank e-mail addressed to NARDuesIncrease@RealTown.com

Review the issues so you make an informed decision when you cast your vote.

John

John Reilly
Director, RealTown®
John@RealTown.com

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Date: April 26, 2011

I am opposed to this proposal. Many Realtors all across the country have
been struggling financially in this challenging economy.
I was very upset last fall when the "Realtor Party" sent two postcards to my
home with some local agents names endorsing a particular candidate.
When I questioned one of them, he informed me that he did know it was going
out and didn't even support that party. This was a waste of
NAR members money and a mis-representation of that individual's political
view. NAR directors, STOP this NOW. It's time for some accountability.
This is my personal position on this issue and not that of my company.

John R. Ehrhart,RealtorR
Yardley, PA

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Kathy Harris Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Scottsdale,  AZ

Date: April 26, 2011


Simple resolution. There are huge issues that will affect REALTORS in our daily business; mortgage financing and keeping housing affordable for starters. $40 to battle the legislators is worth every penny. Reduce it to $3.33 per month if you must. Forgo one Starbucks coffee for pete's sake!
ALL monies must be accounted for and put to the specific use only!

Thank you and best of luck!




Best Regards,
Kathy "Kate" Harris ~ ABR, CRS, CSP, GRI, CLHMS, e~Pro
Director ~ SAAR ~ Scottsdale Area Association of Realtors
Cell ~ (480)688-2052
E~Fax (480) 624-3614
www.LuxuryHomesByKate.com
Russ Lyon Sotheby's International Realty Co.


Don't audit life. Show up and make the most of it now!






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Ronny Geenen Real Estate ,  Glendora,  CA

Date: April 27, 2011

Simple resolution. There are huge issues that will affect REALTORS in our daily business; mortgage financing and keeping housing affordable for starters. $40 to battle the legislators is worth every penny. Reduce it to $3.33 per month if you must. Forgo one Starbucks coffee for pete's sake!
ALL monies must be accounted for and put to the specific use only!


I will vote no, because it is mandatory. I do not like to be pushed.
And I also do not drink starbucks. I prefer a good glass of wine and there is not a $40 dollar fee that will stop
me. But for some people every $$ is a lot of money, but the people at NAR do not care.
They want to let you and me know that they are the only ones who knows what to do and they do not care about others who are suffering. They are acting social from their point of view. And that is the standard view of a form of dictatorship.
I have worked and travelled through the whole world and I experience world war two. I have seen it all and the way they act is no different than others in other part of the world.

RG

Southland Properties

Glendora, CA 91740

626-914-6999 (Office)

Email: Ronny@RonnyGeenen.com

ID: #00958752


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Judith Clausen Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Denver,  CO

Date: April 28, 2011

I haven't weighed in on the issue yet, but want to now. I'm ambivalent about it but ultimately the NAR is a lobbyist I support. We need a strong voice in the political arena when challenges continue to arise to the very foundation of our economic well being as REALTORS®. I always marvel at people who vote against their own economic interests. The dues increase is in our best interests for multitudinous reasons, but chiefly to help us survive as an industry. I am the owner of an Exclusive Buyer Brokerage which benefits only tangentially from NAR efforts. It's a business model that hasn't taken root in the NAR and at times NAR acts antithetically to my business interests.

But overall the voice we all need is to keep banks out of real estate - and who knows who else will come along in the future who will try to wedge their way into our industry - to advocate for the viability of the mortgage interest deduction, and all the other issues that come down the pike from time to time.

So my vote is yes, I want the same kind of voice at the table as the financial industry has. We need the clout.

Judith Clausen, Broker/Owner

Buyers Advantage Real Estate of Metro Denver, Inc.

303-587-3509 Direct

877-570-4469 Toll Free

877-570-3471 Fax

720-328-8501 Home

www.buyers-advantage.net

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Ronny Geenen Real Estate ,  Glendora,  CA

Date: April 28, 2011

---------------But overall the voice we all need is to keep banks out of real estate - and who knows who else will come along in the future who will try to wedge their way into our industry - to advocate for the viability of the mortgage interest deduction, and all the other issues that come down the pike from time to time.

So my vote is yes, I want the same kind of voice at the table as the financial industry has. We need the clout.

Judith Clausen, Broker/Owner



No body stops you from donating even more.
But do not forced others to do that.

RG

Southland Properties

Glendora, CA 91740

626-914-6999 (Office)

Email: Ronny@RonnyGeenen.com

ID: #00958752

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Rich Hudson Information Technology,  Menifee,  CA

Date: April 28, 2011

Great idea. Maybe we can get Congress to do the same. Or gOVERNOR mOONBEAM HERE IN cALIFORNIA>

Yeah, That's it. That's the ticket.... Riiiiight.

Rich Hudson
Rich@One-StopDesktop.com
www.One-StopDesktop.com
"Where Content is King"



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ALL monies must be accounted for and put to the specific use only!

Thank you and best of luck!

Kathy "Kate" Harris

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Bill Wagner Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Galloway,  NJ

Date: April 29, 2011

John,

What is the process for agents who are not members of RealTown to cast their vote?

I would like to have all my agents vote.

Bill Wagner

Broker

Keller Williams Realty Atlantic Shore

609-432-8005

billwagner@kw.com

Editor's Note
Hi Bill,All they have to do is register on RealTown (there is no cost) and then we can send them a ballot and they can vote.This is being done with our secure voting platform, "One Person, One Voice" which is used by over 60 REALTOR associations in the US and Canada. We could have used a simple survey tool, but we did not want there to be "voter fraud" so that our results would be a true representation. Also, the more who vote...the larger the sample...the better from a statistical perspective.http://RealTown.comThanks Bill.Saul
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Miriam Bernstein Licensed Real Estate Agent,  New Orleans,  LA

Date: April 29, 2011

I am opposed to this for two reasons. My MLS does not agent level IDX the powers that be at NAR are hard pressed to even find this an issue and number two because NAR agreed to let national franchisors index local listings and i do not have agent level IDX....

I am not sure who NAR works for anymore but it is not their own agents except at the most superficial level.

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Robert Taylor Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Birmingham,  MI

Date: April 29, 2011

"I am not sure who NAR works for anymore but it is not their own agents except at the most superficial level."

Without getting into so much of the "it's all about me" I have seen regarding this subject, I would like to pipe in:

The first "association meeting" I attended, I was told I had no voice in what was taking place within the association. That was a few years ago; since then, I have chosen to become aware of what this "NAR" thing is. So let me share some thoughts.

  • How any of us have watched the news, and wondered what were our elected officials thinking (pick whatever level you wish from the local dog catcher to President). And for what it's worth, let me toss in that I hated my high school civics class and paid enough attention to pass and then promptly forgot all of it. The whole notion that we were a "representative democracy" was so much crap as far as I was concerned. When would I ever have an opportunity to tell an elected official what I really thought. The whole idea of voting was an exercise in futility.
  • The longer I stayed in the business, the more I also came to resent this RPAC thing. Heck, the money they wanted wasn't the issue, what could I do with $20.00, $35.00, $40.00, or even $120.00 over the course of a year that would make an impact on anything. When I smoked, it was less than I spent on cigarettes. It was the fact that they wanted it, for whatever reason, didn't matter. And when I found out who they gave it to, well that was the final straw; I'd be damned if they would give my money to support someone I didn't like.

However, an interesting thing happened. The opportunity to be a state RPAC Trustee came along and I took it, determined to "change things." That worked until I went to my first meeting, I'll never forget it. There was thus gal by the name of Sheri; she spoke about this RPAC thing differently. I can still recall what she said:

"How many of you have car insurance?

How many of you have life insurance?

How many of you have medical insurance?

And for those of you who might not, how many of you wish you could if the premium was affordable?"

There were some laughs in the room.

"How many of you hear of things happening that affect the sale of real estate?

Anyone having a local municipality making septic inspections mandatory?

How many of you would like to be the person responsible for a seller's testing for lead based paint and their compliance under the new "Lead Based Paint" legislation?

The laughing stopped.

If someone came to you and said they would sell you business insurance to protect your ability to earn a living being a real estate agent or broker, what would that premium be worth?

What do you pay for your car insurance, your life insurance, your health insurance or your homeowners or renters policy?

What if there was insurance on your ability to earn the money needed so: your kids would go to college; you had a roof over your head; or your family would be able to pay medical bills. What would it be worth?"

And then she stopped. She didn't ask for money, she didn't attempt to embarrass anyone through per pressure. She simply stopped talking and passed around an RPAC donation form. I remember picking it up and putting it in the folder I had brought. When I got home, I threw it away.

The next morning I picked out of my waste basket and became a Sterling R. That was a lot of money for me. But I had no choice. For years I had complained about "them" and "they" and WTF did so and so know about what was going on, and if only if someone would listen to me. And then I recalled a quote, that went something like "those who refuse to participate in politics will be governed by those who do." Many attribute that to Lincoln; if I recall correctly it was first attributed to Plato.

So, what is that $40.00 in your pocket going to buy you?

10 gallons of gas? Ink or toner for your printer? A couple tickets to the movies? A very good bottle of wine? Less than a carton of cigarettes?

Heck I spent that much the last time the Power ball Lottery was over $300,000,000 - still lost in case you can't tell.

Bob Taylor

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Terry Iwaniw Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Cherry Hill,  NJ

Date: April 29, 2011

I think that NAR should focus on the industry and not look to become another lobbying group. The focus should be, as mentioned on this board, to insure the integrity of the industry and provide the members with useful marketing and demographic information.

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Fred Pickard Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Palmyra,  PA

Date: April 30, 2011

Bob Taylor - I don't disagree with your points about RPAC. RPAC does work to lobby for issues that impact Realtors.

The difference here is simple - and for most people has nothing to do with the $40.

RPAC is voluntary, this is not

While I might agree with a candidate about their support on a real estate issue, I might not support them because I disagree on most of their other stances on issues. One of NAR's most high dollar supports went to our local representative Tim Holden in the last election. He serves on the Agricultural committee and one that has to do with mining. He really has no or little influence on housing issues and I can't ever remember hearing him speak on housing issues. I support him because he is a law and order guy (former police officer) and his local offices do a great job providing services for people in the district.

How would you feel if you worked for a company and they said "Hey Bob, we need you to give us $40 so we can support a political candidate. We won't tell you who the money goes to and won't tell you the results unless they end in our favor, but you're going to do it because our executive boards want it."?

NAR has made a big deal about how they saved the Mortgage Interest Deduction. I guess they forgot that every other business or profession that profits from housing and their contribution to the discussion.

If you listened to the Dog and Pony Show they put online a few weeks ago which ended with a few softball questions from pre-selected questioners, you could see how out of touch the leadership has become. NAR seems to have forgotten that we live in a democracy

 

 

Editor's Note
Note: the polls are still open for voicing your vote on the NAR Dues Increase proposals. Have your friends sign up for RealTown (it is free) and they will be sent a secure ballot with pin number. Over 2,000 members have cast their ballot already. There are five days left to vote.John
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Peter Miller Writing/Editing

Date: April 30, 2011

Hi --


 
Terry writes and says, "I think that NAR should focus on the industry and not look to become another lobbying group. The focus should be, as mentioned on this board, to insure the integrity of the industry and provide the members with useful marketing and demographic information."

 
I suspect a lot of people agree with this perspective and with good reason. That said, as someone who has long been in Washington, allow me to offer a different view.

 
Associations have no option, they must be lobbyists. The reason is that Washington is filled with competing interests and if your interest is not represented you lose in the form of excess regulation, less market share and fewer tax benefits.

 
In the case of NAR there is, for example, a nascant push for a reduction in the mortgage interest tax deduction. This is not a matter of licensuree, agency, marketing or demographics, but how many real estate licensees would benefit from this type of tax rule change?

 
I suspect a major problem is that no member of Congress votes once. They each vote on a variety of matters and sometimes the person you like on one issue can be astonishingly off-base in other areas. For an organization like NAR with 1 million members it's apparent that no elected official can entirely satisfy the membership when a range of issues is considered.

 
I leave it to NAR members to decide how much they should pay or not pay in dues and for what purposes.

 
All the best,

 
Peter G. Miller

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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Paul Silver,  Portsmouth,  RI

Date: April 30, 2011

Bob Taylor wrote, in part: "those who refuse to participate in politics will
be governed by those who do." Many attribute that to Lincoln; if I recall
correctly it was first attributed to Plato.
 

Bob, Plato, I think, yes...
 

Let me add this Bob: I do participate, at many levels, in my governance... I
vote, I have been on many local, state, and national level candidate finance
committees, and have even served a short stint in public office... my issue
with the NAR mandatory dues increase is simply this: Many instances exist
where NAR, or my local boards, have given money to candidates that I would
never otherwise have supported... Sure, perhaps they were stronger on some
things NAR wanted... but these things do not always help the individual
agent, but rather NAR itself, as an organization... and most often, the
donations and advertising go to candidates that I have strong opposing
viewpoints to, and regardless of their support for NAR agendas, find them
onerous...
 

So, being that I can and do support my own choices of candidates, based on
my interests, including real estate issues, I see this as forced payment to
support parties or candidates that I do not want to support... in my areas
of practice, these monies would go to friends of the higher ups in the local
Boards, and not necessarily candidates that might make a difference...
 

So how do we justify political action when it is not what our choice would
be, and in many instances is not supporting issues that individual agents
can also support, in good faith... ?
 

Have a great day!
 

Best regards,
 

Paul Silver
Executive Vice President
Focus Professionals, Inc.
Direct Tel: (401) 293-0131
E-Fax: (401) 633-6938

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Karl Von loewe Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Hillsborough,  NJ

Date: April 30, 2011

I don't seem to have received an opportunity to vote.

Karl von Loewe

Editor's Note
We'll check on it, Karl, aand make sure you are sent a ballot to your personal domain address.
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