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Pat Tingle, Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Crossville,  TN

Date: February 10, 2009, Number of Replies: 14


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We were wondering if anyone has ever heard of Craig Proctor?

Dan & Pat Tingle, Realtors®

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Renee Best Licensed Real Estate Agent

Date: February 11, 2009

Yes. Craig Proctor was in the original "The Secret" movie. He is considered a master marketer. I find his program to have sizzle but little steak. Google Craig Proctor and see what you get. You would be better off with a private business coach, like Johnnie Johnson of World Class Coaching. He is excellent.

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Jim Lyals Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Newaygo,  MI

Date: February 11, 2009

Our team has used Craig Proctor's systems for a number of years and members of the team has been to his week long retreats twice. His systems and ideas he teaches he has actually done.

You may go to his web site for more info. He and Gary Keller, with the Millionaire Real Estate Agent book, seem to be as good as any real estate experts I have seen in the last 37 years I've been in the business!

Jim Lyals, Realtor

Gail Wyatt Team

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Date: February 28, 2009

Uhm.....That would be Bob Proctor, Philosopher. BobProctor.com.
That's funny. Although I suppose Craig Proctor could have been involved with the movie. After all, I don't know everything.


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Date: March 1, 2009

I went to is presentation in Nashville several weeks ago. It lasts about three hours and he expects you to sign up at the end of the presentation for about $900.00
Proctor has been very successful in the Toronto, Canada real estate market. Remember most of the Canadian population live few cities such as Toronto so Proctor has an extremely large target audience and very compact population to work with.
His program may be successful in that type of environment. It is a long term program, rather expensive, and relies heavily on advertising. If you are willing to invest in a long-term commitment and have the dollars it could prove to be beneficial. His program stresses that Proctor is a full-time residential agent in Canada, so his program is based on his actual experience.
I came away from the presentation with some good ideas, Like anything else, you get out of it what you put into it. I did not like his approach in that it stressed that it is so easy to make money with his program, and you do not have to work hard. He claims that you work easier, and make money. I tend to believe in the Donald Trump approach to real estate in that you have to work hard at it to be successful.
The best luck to all of us.
Regards,
Bernard Bernstein
Benchmark Investors Group
Commercial & Investment Real Estate
Nashville
Direct: (615) 419-3611


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Bonnie Cox Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Centennial,  CO

Date: March 1, 2009

She has it right. It is Craig Proctor. Once he gets your email address, you will never again be confused.
 
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Deede Wockenfuss Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Chandler,  AZ

Date: March 1, 2009

Yes. I bought his product hook, line and sinker a few years ago, and not only did I not get any business from it - I GOT NOTHING from it. He hypes that he has something 'new and different' that you really need to buy, but it is nothing but old salesmanship and worthless marketing ideas. All I can say is that it DID NOT work for me and I was very disappointed. Unless he has morphed into something new, I'd skip it.

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(888) 877-3710 E-Fax

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Lester Cox Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Tempe,  AZ

Date: March 1, 2009

I heard of Craig Proctor about 8 years ago and have been using his systems ever since. I know there are lots of naysayers out there about him, but those people probably have nothing good to say about any real estate coach. In fact, every system, seminar etc. is no good by those folks. Here's the deal. It's not a magic pill and Craig never says it is. What he does tell you that once you do his program and get his systems in place, you have a business that should and could run without your 24/7 involvement. The first 3 years of his program, I worked as hard as I ever have in 30 plus years in the business. But for the past 5 years, my GCI has never been below $1M per year and I will have income of nearly $2M this year. I owe it to Craig Proctor.

By the way, a year ago, Craig gave me the honor of joining his coaching staff and I have been coaching for Craig and helping others around North America get their dreams started. It works, I teach it, I practice it and Craig guarantees it. In fact, you can go to his super conference in Dallas the beginning of April, if you don't like what you see by noon of day two, turn in your materials, get a full refund and a couple hundred for your airfare too. For those who stil think Craig's systems don't work, then find another coach, but at least find a coach. Anybody is better than no one. But when you find that coach, do what they ask you to do and before you run out and tell the world that it doesn't work, ask yourself if you really applied and did your best to emplement what was being taught. It's a tough market out there and I am thankful I have Craig and the entire Proctor organization behind me and my business. My team is rocking, we get over 1000 leads per month and we know what to do with them.

Lester Cox

Tempe, Arizona

 

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Jim Lee Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Portsmouth,  NH

Date: March 2, 2009

I've not only heard of Craig Proctor but have been to Tornoto to his three day event and signed up for his coaching afterward.

I've made many times my investment back from things I learned there and during the coaching.

Several times now Craig has been the number 1 producing Re/Max agent in the world; a phenominal accomplishment once let alone multiple times.

His courses and techniques will work if you will implement them and do them.

The part I like best of all: prospect call you, you don't call them.

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Betty Henderson Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Ocean Isle Beach,  NC

Date: March 2, 2009

I have been to 3 of Craig Proctors week long seminars and joined the mentor program. I followed the plan and the first year I did double my income! The second year was even better. Then my husband retired to the beach which is a very, very different market, and I've not been able to get this plan working here. (the broker/owner would not let me advertise the way I had been advertising). Of course, the market here has also tanked, so that may be a big part of my problem. But, I've just changed companies for that very reason, and hope to see an increase in business using Craig's plan. It is a no-brainer - he will refund your money if you do not have an increase in business.

Betty Henderson
Mary Ann Bechtel Real Estate
7122 Beach Drive
Sunset Beach, NC 28469
910-579-2600

Make your beach dreams a reality.

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Tanya Boutilier Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Halifax,  --

Date: March 2, 2009

It's funny that you asked "If anyone has heard of Craig Proctor?" because I just went to a 3hr seminar on his program hosted by Rich Brash, one of his trainers. I think it could be a good program for the right person but I believe any program is good as long as you use it.

I think you need to do your homework on this one though as there it is a huge time and money commitment to get it running properly. It kind of flies in the face of the Floyd Wickman old school training of cold calling by spending money on advertising instead of time cold calling in order to generate leads. So you need to evaluate which is more valuable to you, time or money?

I believe either method will generate the leads its the consistent follow-up and service that you provide after you get them on the phone that will be the true measure of your success!

Tanya Boutilier
Business Development Manager/Licensed Realtor®
Guaranty GMAC Real Estate
233 Bedford Hwy, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, B3M 2J9
902-223-6300 Cell/902-457-4000 Office/902-457-1400 Fax
Tanya@TanyaBoutilier.com
www.TanyaBoutilier.com

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Cheryl Laxton Government ,  Kingston,  TN

Date: March 2, 2009

Works kinda like Floyd Wickman. We were told that we were the only agents within miles that would be doing what Floyd told us to do. Over $900 and then found out that agents all over area had been. While doing the 7 weeks you are made to do prospecting so of course you keep up but then like everything else your normal day kicks in and its hard to keep up with everything. I did get some good ideas but I feel they are not exactly truthful. I signed up to go to Chicago for their convention which was $500 extra plus I would have paid for hotel, etc. We were to go Jan. 8 and my dad passed away on Dec. 23. I called to see if they would cancel and "no way" could I get money back. They would let me reschedule for 2010 but no refunds not even for death. Lost all desire to be a part of that network.
Cheryl Laxton
Yes. I bought his product hook, line and sinker a few years ago, and not only did I not get any business from it - I GOT NOTHING from it. He hypes that he has something 'new and different' that you really need to buy, but it is nothing but old salesmanship and worthless marketing ideas. All I can say is that it DID NOT work for me and I was very disappointed. Unless he has morphed into something new, I'd skip it.


Cheryl Laxton

Broker, ABR, CRS, ePRO, GRI, SRES

Coldwell Banker Jim Henry & Assoc.

410 N. Kentucky Street

Kingston, TN 37763

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865/740-2440 cell

866/485-6348 fax

CherylSellsHouses@gmail.com

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Joi Aldridge Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Carson,  CA

Date: March 2, 2009

I read most of the comments on this and I just had to add my two cents to this thread. I've been in the real estate/mortgage banking industry for over 30 years and in the beginning I would go and listen to everyone and try everything. In the end the bottom line is this….you have to work very hard in the business and give it your all. It's like my husband has always told me "Those that CAN - DO! Those that CANT - TEACH!" And I have found that to be oh so true. Most of these "former" or so called agents that are basically teaching other "new" agents or whomever else they can sucker into taking their classes….that's how they're making their money. If they were still making money in real estate….especially all the money most claim they made….I feel they would still be making money selling real estate and not spending their time teaching. Because honestly, when would they REALLY have the time to teach, if they were putting their energy and time into selling real estate and making all the money they claim. My answer is that they're not. They have found a new career, which I will say is "teaching other agents" how to make money selling real estate. And it has gone over so well, that they have made more money at teaching. Which…..tells me that they we're not as good as they thought they were at selling real estate. But hey…..you do what you do best. And if they're doing teaching….my hats are off to them. I just found that it was more out dated and very un-useful to me in my business. And therefore, I choose not to give my money to those that cannot benefit my business. Since that would be why I would be paying them in the first place. Also…I signed up for the one-on-one coaching that they say sends you over the top. And after my second week I cancelled and requested a refund after I found out that the coach I had never sold a piece of real estate in his life. And on top of that was not even licensed to sell real estate. It's all a business tactic for them and you may walk away with a pointer or two…but you can also walk away with a pointer or more from your local real estate boards and the training they provide.

We as agents must be VERY prudent and careful as to where we place our educational dollars. Especially in this uncertain market place that we find ourselves in. My suggestion is to stay with classes offered or recommended through the local real estate boards and check those out carefully too.

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Christopher Cassidy Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Medford,  MA

Date: March 2, 2009

I am continually amazed when the subject of coaching comes up, how much misinformation is out there.

Someone in this thread actually tried to claim that Craig must be a better teacher than agent, and that's why he sells his coaching program, implying that he's not a successful agent, completely ignoring the fact that Craig's current (and longstanding) success as a full-time REALTOR can easily be seen by looking up his stats with RE/MAX, where he is every year ranked in the Top 20 internationally of all RE/MAX agents and teams, and has been number one several of the last 20 years. That's not something you can fake. Perhaps people should think a little before spouting off about such things. It just comes off petty and stupid, and perhaps we should aspire to something higher than that, especially when we think we are giving others advice.

What I've learned in almost 15 years as a full-time REALTOR is that agents are wildly inconsistent, and the ones who badmouth coaches the most usually never gave the coaching a chance (meaning, they either barely implemented the teachings, or not at all), but will tell you "I tried it and it didn't work" or some other excuse. Like Lester said, ask yourself if you're really being honest. ESPECIALLY, as I've already said, if you're putting your two cents in when somebody else is looking for help and guidance. Don't tell them coaching stinks if you've never given it an honest shot.

I have done and continue to do Craig's marketing in my own business, and I went through his Coaching and Graduate Coaching. I've also met Lester, and he's done extremely well with Craig's concepts. He and some of the others are right when they say that, regardless of the coach, you will get out of it exactly what you put into it.

And, if you think you don't need a coach, think again. Tiger Woods is an absolutely unreal golfer, and probably knows more about the game than all but a handful of other people playing the game at that level today. But Tiger Woods has a coach, probably several, in fact.

Whatever coach you use, make an honest effort and be consistent with what they teach you. Look for somebody with a track record. And then do it.

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John Cleek Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Louisburg,  KS

Date: March 3, 2009

I don't know Craig Proctor other than I have seen his ads in trade magazines and have received some of his e-mail marketing materials. In the absence of any first hand knowledge of his marketing or teaching methods I would not presume to pass judgment on him. I do agree with Christopher that it is easy to claim one has tried a coaches methods and claim they were ineffective when the reality is they never gave the methods a fair chance.


 
But I want to offer a partial rejoinder to a portion of what Christopher has said.

 
While it is true that when we stop learning we stop growing and likely our skills will begin to decline, but it is also true that most techniques work for some people and not for others, that is true of real estate marketing as well as professional golf. Tiger Woods doesn't select just any coach but rather carefully selects his coaches based on the techniques he wants to polish and refine.

 
All of us need to be sufficiently self-aware that we can identify the coach that is most likely to be compatible with our natural talents and personality and thus will help us improve OUR techniques and skills rather than insist that we adopt the strategies that worked for them. For example, I am a relationship person. I will win or lose based on how well I succeed in establishing positive relationships of trust and credibility with the clients I serve. I might be able to fake adoption of Craig Proctor or someone else's marketing strategies and might even achieve modicum of success in the process. But I would be miserable doing it. I gotta be me!

 
A few years ago I was told by someone who resented my ability to persuade people to follow my lead that I must be the world's best salesman. I was flattered of course but I knew that the praise was not really justified. The only way I can be persuasive is if I am promoting something I believe in and am passionate about. I refuse to be phony and refuse to be sold anything by anyone I perceive as phony.

 
I tell my buyers, Don't expect me to sell you anything. I will help you find properties that match your wants and needs, help you identify the key features -- strengths and weaknesses of each property, but I will not attempt to sell you on any one property as being the one that is right for you. I tell them, I really can't help you decide which one you like the most. But when you decide, I will make sure you are able to buy it for the best price possible and that everything goes smoothly for you.

 
Good luck.

John

 
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I am continually amazed when the subject of coaching comes up, how much misinformation is out there.

Someone in this thread actually tried to claim that Craig must be a better teacher than agent, and that's why he sells his coaching program, implying that he's not a successful agent, completely ignoring the fact that Craig's current (and longstanding) success as a full-time REALTOR can easily be seen by looking up his stats with RE/MAX, where he is every year ranked in the Top 20 internationally of all RE/MAX agents and teams, and has been number one several of the last 20 years. That's not something you can fake. Perhaps people should think a little before spouting off about such things. It just comes off petty and stupid, and perhaps we should aspire to something higher than that, especially when we think we are giving others advice.

What I've learned in almost 15 years as a full-time REALTOR is that agents are wildly inconsistent, and the ones who badmouth coaches the most usually never gave the coaching a chance (meaning, they either barely implemented the teachings, or not at all), but will tell you "I tried it and it didn't work" or some other excuse. Like Lester said, ask yourself if you're really being honest. ESPECIALLY, as I've already said, if you're putting your two cents in when somebody else is looking for help and guidance. Don't tell them coaching stinks if you've never given it an honest shot.

I have done and continue to do Craig's marketing in my own business, and I went through his Coaching and Graduate Coaching. I've also met Lester, and he's done extremely well with Craig's concepts. He and some of the others are right when they say that, regardless of the coach, you will get out of it exactly what you put into it.

And, if you think you don't need a coach, think again. Tiger Woods is an absolutely unreal golfer, and probably knows more about the game than all but a handful of other people playing the game at that level today. But Tiger Woods has a coach, probably several, in fact.

Whatever coach you use, make an honest effort and be consistent with what they teach you. Look for somebody with a track record. And then do it.

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