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Feb. 6, 2010 - Sex and Real Estate

Sex and Real Estate is not about "sexy houses" or sexy people in the advertisements to sell houses.

Sex and Real Estate is about people, with children, having sex IN the houses.

One of the biggest problems in real estate is that agents are reluctant to talk about things that matter to the buyers of homes. Sellers too. But for the most part sex and real estate is about home buyers vs. sellers. I have yet to hear a seller say "We LOVE our home because we can have loud, noisy sex without the kids being able to hear us! YAY!"

Think about it. Everyone needs a kitchen because they will likely cook everyday. There are likely thousands of conversations going on right now all over the Country between agents and home buyers about gas stoves vs. electric stoves. About granite kitchen counters or laminate kitchen counters. About stainless refrigerators or white ones.

Lots and lots of talk about cooking in the kitchen...but no one's talking about what's "cooking" in the Master Bedroom.

Agents and home buyers don't need to discuss this too much because most builders design homes that create a "buffer" for sex noise between the master bedroom and the children's bedrooms. The floor plan above is a great example. It's not an expensive home. It's a smaller, three bedroom home. But it does have excellent positioning for noisy sex whether that is happening in the Master Bedroom or the big 5 piece master bathroom.

Not only does no child's bedroom touch the master suite in any way shape or form, but you have the Master Bedroom Walk-in-Closet AND the child's Walk-in-Closet back to back for a HUGE "noise buffer" zone for the child's bedroom on the right. 

The bedroom on the left has the "toilet room" buffer and the full expanse of the master bath with the jacuzzi at the furthest point from the child's bedroom. Even if the kids were sitting in their walk in closet [unlikely] there is still a buffer from the place the parent's are likely to be having sex.

I know this is a difficult topic for many, BUT it is also an everyday reality, and agents MUST sometimes raise the issue though often they do not know how to broach the subject.

First floor Master Suite is a newer floor plan that often leaves home buyers scratching their heads. Then they ask the agent "Why would the builder put the Master Bedroom on the main floor, and the children's bedrooms so far away?" I'm not sure what most agents answer, but my answer is often "a Master on the Main can improve the quality and longevity of your marriage." The expression on my face says it better than the words coming out of my mouth. :)

On rare occassions I run into houses where the design neglected to place appropriate "buffers" between the Master Bedroom and a child's bedroom. I have seen this in both inexpensive and expensive homes. Even for me, someone who is pretty much not afraid to tell my clients anything and everything they may need to know before buying a house, it is difficult for me at times to point this out. Never, does the client notice it during the showing. Sometimes I don't know the people very well at this point in our client/agent relationship. But I must point out the home's "weakness" even if they have no children.

Frankly, it is when people are going to be having children, or have a little baby, that they do not notice this flaw in the floor plan. The ONLY buyers I have seen notice this "weakness" in a home, are the ones who plan to have a room mate vs a child in that bedroom. Young single people with a room mate notice this immediately, and moreso than couples with children who are buying homes. Not sure why that is :)

The floor plan below would not work as well as it does, if the bathtub were in that closet area butting up directly against the bedroom 3 wall. For most children, even hearing the parent taking a "naked bath" while doing their homework in their bedroom, is a bit "disturbing". Again, most home builders' architects absolutely consider these issues when designing homes, so that we only have to notice and raise these embarrassing home weaknesses on very few occasions.

 

 

Below is a very common floorplan that works very well when bedrooms 3 and 4 are used for the children, and bedroom 2 is used as an "office" for the parents.

BUT, once in a while my clients start talking about using the smallest room, bedroom 3, as the office...

 

...and that is when, even though it is difficult for me, I must with a red face explain that in this case...size is not likely as important as position.

Many agents will not notice, or they will leave that for the parents to "figure out" after they buy the house, because they are reluctant to talk about Sex and Real Estate. But the reality is that those parents may not have bought that house, if they knew that one of the children would end up in the 10' X 10' bedroom. 

Sex and Real Estate...don't overlook this important factor when choosing a home to buy. Agents, if you have NEVER in your real estate career had to raise this uncomfortable topic with your Buyer Clients...it's time to ask yourself why not.

 

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Feb. 6, 2010 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by Jason Farris

Excellant info Ardell! I loved reading it and seeing the differnt examples. I sometimes use check off sheets with buyers... what the home had or didnt have; Perhaps I should add 'sex friendly' to the list.

Cheers!

@Fresyes

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Feb. 6, 2010 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by ARDELL

 Jason,

Because it is a topic that should not be broached unless absolutely necessary, I would suggest you check that feature of the floor plan and ONLY mention it when the home has a weakness in that area.

That's how I do it, and the instances where I need to mention it are few and far between, but important none-the-less.

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Feb. 6, 2010 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by Mortgage Preqaulification

This is one of those topics that makes you stop and go "huh" and then wonder why you never thought of it before.  Obviously as you said it is not going to come up often, unless you want to seem creepy, but it seems like it will come up at some point.

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Feb. 6, 2010 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by ARDELL

 I only raise the issue if:

1) People ask, and that most often happens with a first floor master suite, as I indicated in the post.

2) People want to make an offer on the house. If they don't like it for some other reason, I keep my mouth shut about it :) But when they want to buy it, I have to make sure they have noticed both the strong points and the weak points of the house before they make an offer. I view that as part of my job, making sure they don't learn about home weaknesses after they own it, or worse yet, when they are trying to sell it.

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Feb. 7, 2010 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by Gary Smith

Ardell,

Well written and a unique topic.  I guess it would depend upon who you're working for to provide this information.  A Buyers Agent, most likely should bring this up.

Glad Jeff Turner tweeted this.

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Feb. 8, 2010 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by Jack Burns

Great topic Ardell. Well written! If my client "goes there" should I also comment on how the shower curtain rod will support  bodyweight? Or how sturdy the countertops are and their proximity to the spatula drawer? Or how the house has a great view of the neighbor's bedroom window?

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Feb. 8, 2010 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by ARDELL DellaLoggia

 LOL! Jack, honey, far be it for me to tell you what to say to your clients...but most homes have "tension rod" shower curtains these days...so watch your liability on that one.

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Feb. 9, 2010 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by Ira Sacharoff

I dare ya, Ardell, to write " designed with loud sex in mind" in your next listing description. Double dare ya.

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Feb. 9, 2010 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by ARDELL DellaLoggia

 Hi Ira,

It's interesting to see how agents have trouble dealing with...not the sex and real estate of it, but the separation of what you do for a seller vs for a buyer. 

This topic never comes up when I represent the seller of a home and I clearly would never include it in the home's description or advertising. The times it has come up is when I represent the buyer of a home, since as the agent for the buyer we help them see everything possible to help them make an informed decision in a short amount of time.

As to "designed with loud sex in mind" you know that homes ARE designed for that by the architects and builders, people just don't talk about it. Placement of buffers for noise - closets between two bedrooms, hall bath between master and children's room, is a common design feature. 

Buying a home where the master bed wall backs up to the child's bed wall, is like buying a home with the stove in the dining room...but a little less obvious to the casual observer :)

 

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Feb. 9, 2010 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by Ira Sacharoff

OK, OK, You'd never put it in a listing description. But it's much easier ( at least for me) to write things than to talk about them. So...Next time you're showing a house, I want you to surrepticiously record the conversation when you're telling the buyers ( in the classic loud obnoxious east coast style I know you know you're familiar with)

"You can just forget about having loud sex in THIS room! "

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Feb. 9, 2010 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by ARDELL DellaLoggia

 

Funny Ira. Usually I "lead" them to the conclusion.

Example:

Master bedroom backs up to child's bedroom with no "noise buffer".  House is vacant. I go in the master and ask them which wall they will put their bed on. They point to a wall. Now I take them to the room behind it and ask where they will be putting the child's bed, and they point to the other side of the same wall.

Then I ask one of the parents to stand near that wall in the master bedroom and the other to stand in the child's bedroom near that same wall.

Then I  knock on the wall... :)

Subtle, but effective.

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Mar. 16, 2010 - Real Estate

Posted by Selling my property

Real estate blogging encourages a culture and principle of RESPECTFUL debate. Great stuff as usual…. Thanks for this.

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Mar. 22, 2010 - Real Estate

Posted by infinity at brickell condo

Good thing you have done here, Thanks! This is a pretty up beat post about real estate that I am quoted in.

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Mar. 23, 2010 - Real Estate

Posted by Neo Vertika Brickell

This is good information. Great post regarding real estate. Thanks for this.

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Apr. 9, 2011 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by windham real estate

 Thank you for your very interesting post. I have high regard for the valuable information you offer in your Articles. I really believe you will do much better in the future. Thanks a lot.

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Apr. 11, 2011 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by Rob

Hmm very interesting

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Jan. 15, 2012 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by Patricia

You are absolutely right, no customer can honestly say something as bold as "We LOVE our home because we can have loud, noisy sex without the kids being able to hear us! YAY!" - But this is actually happening in the real scenario! 

Thank you for another informative post Ardell. I told you I was going to visit your popular posts! Very good.

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Jan. 15, 2012 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by Patricia

You are absolutely right, no customer can honestly say something as bold as "We LOVE our home because we can have loud, noisy sex without the kids being able to hear us! YAY!" - But this is actually happening in the real scenario! 

Thank you for another informative post Ardell. I told you I was going to visit your popular posts! Very good.  Search Odenton homes for sale here.

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Jan. 15, 2012 - RE: Sex and Real Estate

Posted by Jessica

Is marital sex boring? Maybe not. People tend to shy away from the topic when building a house maybe because they are too focused on getting the house done with out thinking of these things. But certainly, this is a good idea for families looking to build a home. Fremont homes for sale.

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