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How do tax liens or tax deed sales work?

Apr. 15, 2008
Categorized in: Buying Real Estate

Hi all!

As promised last week, I said I would speak about Tax Liens this week and explain how they work. This is an avenue some investors use in hopes to acquire real estate for "pennies on the dollar." Does it work? Well, that depends (hey! there's that phrase again!).

I know many counties across the United States do things differently, and since I live in Okaloosa County, FL, I will use how they do these sales as an example. In Okaloosa, taxes on your house are due no later than March 31 for the previous year. Lenders usually have an escrow account where you pay a portion of your taxes each month, and they pay them in November (to get the discount for early payment). They want to make sure "their" investment is protected. Tax liens on a property take precedence over lender liens.

If someone does not pay their tax bill by March 31, then your tax bill "goes up for auction" usually in May or June. This is where the public can bid (all online) to pay your taxes! (Sounds Cool! Someone else paying your taxes, right? But wait, there's more!). Well, what happens during this bidding, is that bidders compete against each other--yes they will pay this bill, but for a price. Bidding starts at 18% interest, and goes down in 1/4% interest points.

What does this mean? Say I win the bid at 14% on June 1st. I pay the tax bill, and am charging this rate for "loaning" you the money. Mind you, you will never meet the person who has bid/paid your taxes. Now, say you go in on August 1st to pay your overdue bill. You will owe your bill, plus the 14% interest rate to the tax assessor. Then the tax assessor pays me back plus the interest that you've paid.

So how does one get a property if you pay your bill? Well, some people don't, for whatever reason, and after 3 years of holding this certificate that shows I paid your taxes, I can now foreclose on your home. But what about the 2 following years? Well, if you bought those liens as well, then there is no competition. If not, then you pay those bills plus the interest and you have those deeds.

While all of this sounds SO simple...there's a LOT more involved. You need to do your research right from the start. I heard on the radio just a couple of weeks ago about a guy that bought a piece of property using this method for only $5000.00! He was going to build his dream home on the property...until he found out that it was a 4x100 piece of land. Yes those are the correct numbers. It was a county-owned easement. You see, he got SO excited that he had a piece of property for "cheap" (or so he thought), but he didn't do his due diligence prior to bidding on it.

The Okaloosa County website is www.BidOkaloosa.com and they have great information there, a tutorial on how the auction works, as well as previous years auction results so you can peruse them and figure out how it all works. From this website, you can also see other counties that have the same format, most in Florida, and some in Arizona, as well as other states.

If you plan on trying this route for investment or finding a lot to build your dream home, just make sure you do your research before you start your bidding. The parcel ID numbers are on the list, and you can go to the property appraiser's page to find out what kind of property this is--if there is a home on it or not--AND it will also identify whether it is a county or city-owned easement. Look at the lot size, and use the maps available to see where it is located. The research itself does take a lot of time, so be prepared for that. Also, when you do foreclose on it, you need to check to see if there are other liens on the property and if you will be responsible for those liens even if you foreclose on it to pay the taxes.

If you have further questions, feel free to ask here, or email me or call me.

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1. RE: How do tax liens or tax deed sales work?

Written by: Sarah D
Apr. 15, 2008
I am familiar with the tax deed/lien auctions in my county in TN, but loved learning about it in your/my in-laws' county. Thanks!
Sarah L. Dailey

2. RE: How do tax liens or tax deed sales work?

Written by: Tax Liens
May. 5, 2008
This is one of those business ventures that you really need money to get started in.  It is a great way to earn 15% plus but what are you going to earn it on if you don't have any money to start with?

3. RE: How do tax liens or tax deed sales work?

Written by: Valerie Sullivan
May. 6, 2008

The old addage "to make money you have to have money" and you're stuck in a catch-22! LOL

But if you do your research, there are taxes due that are under $100, versus having to pay thousands on say a waterfront property. People don't pay their taxes for a myriad of reasons, maybe there was a divorce and both spouses believed the other took care of the bill. Or if there's a death of the homeowner, and there are no heirs, or all family members live far away.

It's much like the person who hunts for a bargain every time they go shopping. They know they want an Ipod for example, but don't want to pay full price, so they start doing their research. They look on-line for used, in the paper, or even eBay--garage saling in your pj's!

It's the same with Tax Liens. You have to do your research, not just to make sure it's a valid, not government owned easement, but to match the budget you do have. I know tax bills in the Northwest Florida area for 1/4 lots with a double-wide mobile home on them where the annual tax bill is less than $100. It can be found--just not on the beachfront, or waterfront. As with any type of investment, you start small and gradually increase as your funds increase.

4. RE: How do tax liens or tax deed sales work?

Written by: Shana
May. 26, 2008
I am interested in tax liens and am in a position where I would need to start small. However, in order for this investment to really be worthwhile wouldn't you need to spend big bucks, like $50,000? It just seems like if you purchased one for $100 that it won't really be worth all the research and effort. It just seems like 14% off of $100 isn't a whole lot after all that research.

5. RE: How do tax liens or tax deed sales work?

Written by: Valerie Sullivan
May. 26, 2008

There is a lot of research involved, and only you can decide if starting with $100 for a 14% return is worth all that research, but if you put $100 in the bank, right now you're only guaranteed 1%, which doesn't even cover the cost of inflation. Some banks might give you as high as 4%...but you still can't fill your gas tank with that!

You do have to start somewhere, and while there is a lot of research involved, as with anything, as you learn, the research necessary doesn't seem so overwhelming, nor does it take as long. Meanwhile, you'll be building your portfolio. If you can make the commitment to yourself that whatever you do make on "today's" investment will be added to the amount you can put on "tomorrow's" investment, to continue to increase your portfolio, then you're building a good foundation and future for yourself.

 Keep in mind as well, that if the owner does not pay their taxes in the amount of time necessary, you can foreclose on that property and either keep it for yourself as your home or a rental, or sell it to someone else. If you sell it to someone else, then that could easily give you the $50,000 or more you need to continue to invest in tax deeds, or other investments.

Just like with any investment you make, you have to decide if the return you do or can get is worth the time and effort that you put in to it. And if it's not, then the question I would ask is what else would give you that kind of return?

6. RE: How do tax liens or tax deed sales work?

Written by: Valerie Sullivan
May. 30, 2008

BJ sent me an email asking a great question about tax deeds and I thought I would share his question and my answer here.

His question was "if you purchase a tax deed and there are no liens but there is a mortgage, do you owe on the mortgage?"

First, so that everyone understands, a mortgage is a lien on the property, as well as other liens possible. Tax liens take precendence over the mortgage lien, which means when the property is foreclosed on, the taxes get paid before the bank does. Other liens could be IRS liens, mechanics liens (where work was done on the property, but not paid, the contractor can put a mechanics lien on the house to ensure they are at least paid when the house does sell).

As for owing on the mortgage. If you have the tax deed, that's all that you are responsible for, is paying THAT tax deed--you are not obligated to even pay future unpaid tax bills. It is to your advantage to do so, because then you aren't competing with other tax deed holders. As for owing on the mortgage during the time you hold the tax deed--your name is not on the mortgage, nor the property. NOW, once you start foreclosure proceedings (requirements differ by state, so make sure you do your research--minimum requirements before you can foreclose are usually about 3 years), the best thing to do is to contact an attorney to help you through the process.

If you want to know what, if any, liens are on the property, you can check with your county clerks office. Mortgages are usually recorded and publicly available. This information only shows the original mortgage amount, and/or payoff statements. It doesn't necessarily show a current total balance owed. You would need to get with the bank to find this out, and likely wouldn't be able to do so until you start foreclosure proceedings.

You can also run a title search on the property. In Florida most closings are done through a title company, and it will cost around $100 to have a title search completed with a title company (prices vary according to company as well as scope). This will show any liens against the property.

Thanks BJ for an excellent question, and please share with us what you learn about tax deeds and tax liens in Utah!

Good Luck!

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