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Jul. 2, 2007 - people who live in Glass Farmhouse … 6F is new

Unit 6F at 448 W 37 Street is so new this morning that Anthony Gentile at PruDE does not have a floor plan or any interior photos up yet. He says “over 1,200 sq ft”, though our building data shows this unit at 1,340 sq ft. The asking price is $1.149mm, with $1,106/mo in taxes and common charges.

This is one of those ‘true loft’ buildings that carries a significant neighborhood discount due to its location overlooking the Lincoln Tunnel from the far west side.

Lincoln Tunnel taketh and giveth

That location also provides the singular charm of amazing views and light to the south and east, over the various tunnel spillways.

true loft

I don’t know the history of the building, but it clearly has an industrial pre-residential past. With high ceilings (12 ft in #6F) and the large windows that frame that big sky, it is classic loft space. My guess is that the windows bring in so much terrific light, that the original post-industrial users (photographers, designers) did not need very large spaces to get very good light. Hence, many units are relatively small for classic lofts – 1,000 to 1,50 sq ft.

The listing refers to a 24 –hour doorman, which would be a change from the part-time status of the recent past. (Guessing – again – that there were enough people running businesses with deliveries out of this building that the condo owners at some early point opted for a daytime doorman.)

Chelsea Kitchen???

I am not sure how to react to Gentile’s clever location locution. He calls this area Chelsea Kitchen, though it is well north of what people have recently considered to be Chelsea proper, and well within the area commonly referred to as Hell’s Kitchen. Too clever by half, or just clever enough?? Not sure….

Gary Kahn of Corcoran has been marketing #11F since April, “1,543 sq ft” and 14 foot ceilings for $1.375mm and $1,528/mo (down from the original price of $1.4mm). While waiting for the #6F photos, check out the Corcoran pix from the 11^th floor. The Unit 11F floor plan exemplifies the difficulties with most units in this building that are not on corners: the beautiful windows are along only one wall and provide so much light that it is a shame to close any windows off with a bedroom. The result is the interior bedroom plus guest sleeping loft used in #9F, or some similar solution. (BTW, the #11F listing says “part-time” doorman, so either the change is very recent, or PruDE’s #6F listing is wrong.)

Spoiler alert: I have seen (but can’t find a link now) news reports about a rental tower to be built somewhere over those tunnel spillways. If the planed building is, in fact, built, it will take away some slices of some sky for some residents at the Glass Farmhouse.

If you go, ask!

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Jul. 2, 2007 - re: people who live in Glass Farmhouse … 6F is new

Posted by Anonymous

Sandy - 439 West 36th Street is a 2-story structure directly south of 448 West 37th Street. It's FAR is 6; it's FAR as built is only 2.08. The building was sold on May 1, 2007 to a developer for $13,700,000 according to the deed on ACRIS. Those views from the lofts at 448 West 37th Street may not be so amazing if the developer develops the site (which he will probably do having paid that sum for a lot that is only 75 ft. x 98.75 ft.)

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Jul. 2, 2007 - re: people who live in Glass Farmhouse … 6F is new

Posted by Sandy Mattingly

THX for the hard data, Anon. I should have pulled some facts myself.

I still can’t find the news source I know I have seen about a (planned) rental tower (20+ stories?) somewhere to the east and south of the Glass Farmhouse. (I am almost certain it did not involve the building you mentioned at 439 W 36 St.)

Building on that lot will certainly not be good news for the Glass Farmers, but the (proposed) development I read about (9 months ago in the Real Deal??) would have been both tall and placed to probably take the Empire State Building away from at least some of the Glass Farmers.

I remember it (not so well, as it turns out) because it seemed to be somewhere on top of the various tunnel spillways – over the kind of space that real estate agents too often glibly say “don’t worry about development over there – that’s the tunnel”.

A 12-story tower on 439 W 36 St will have to have some set backs, of course, but it would not be good news for at least some folks in the building.

THX for stopping by, Anon. I wonder if you would indulge me next time, since I have so much trouble telling the “Anonymous”-es apart – can you find a nom-de-blog to use (while preserving your anonymity)? “Lofty” was kind enough to do that earlier today.

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Jul. 3, 2007 - re: people who live in Glass Farmhouse … 6F is new

Posted by Sandy Mattingly

THX, Anon, you spurred me to get hard facts of my own, which I posted today.

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