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Oct 29, 2009 7:41:12 PM
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My MLS does not work on any other platform other than Internet Explorer....that is a challenge when you're using a Mac....I subscribe to Crossover for Mac so that I can get IE on my Mac only to use those programs that need IE...Otherwise, I use Firefox. The reason I went with Firefox over Safari is that I like the add-ons that Firefox has such as Morning Coffee and Xmarks. Unfortunately it means I have to use IE every so often to get business done, but there's no way I'm giving up my Mac.

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Oct 29, 2009 8:11:08 PM
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Currently, the MLS in the desert area of CA (Palm Springs) uses Rappatoni which only works on IE; however, with a Citrix client I am able to use my MacBook Air to access the www.desertareamls.com. Citrix creates a virtual IE so I can access our MLS.
Interestingly, I have no problem accessing the MLS on my iPhone without a third party client.
More interestingly, Winforms, which is compatible only with IE, will shortly be Zipforms 6 which will be compatible with both the PC and the Mac. Thank God for small favors and smart "nerds".
Larry Isaac
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Palm Springs, CA
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My MLS does not work on any other platform other than Internet Explorer....that is a challenge when you're using a Mac....I subscribe to Crossover for Mac so that I can get IE on my Mac only to use those programs that need IE...Otherwise, I use Firefox. The reason I went with Firefox over Safari is that I like the add-ons that Firefox has such as Morning Coffee and Xmarks. Unfortunately it means I have to use IE every so often to get business done, but there's no way I'm giving up my Mac.

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Oct 29, 2009 8:11:40 PM
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I just use Safari as my browser. I do use IE with VM. However, I can use Citrix to access the MLS on the Mac side. It may be available in your city.

Ron Gorman

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Oct 30, 2009 7:32:55 AM
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Try OmniWeb:

http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omniweb/

Click on the Preferences icon in the right corner and the Pref pane will appear at the bottom of the page. Click on the Other tab and you can tell OmniWeb to identify itself to the stupid services as Internet Explorer on Windows. That's what I use when I encounter websites that clueless programmers have touched.

Richard Yeager, e-PRO
NY Living Realty 518.963.8181
3679 Essex Road, Willsboro, NY 12996
Serving the Adirondack Region of New York
http://www.NYLivingRealty.com
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Nov 1, 2009 4:28:03 PM
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I downloaded OmniWeb as you suggested and tried to access my MLS as you suggested, and those clueless programmers had done such a good job that the MLS wouldn't let me in.

We use MLXchange, and there is no known way around the IE wall they have erected around their website. They promised us access next year, but last year they promised it for this year. Our MLS is run by Windows devotees who are totally unsympathetic and mystified by anyone who would want to use anything else.

Crossover for Mac will work but only as IE 6, which is slow and clumsy and lacks support for tabbed browsing, which I need for the type work I do. Here's hoping for equity in the marketplace soon.

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Nov 1, 2009 9:42:54 PM
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Is Citrix available for your access to the MLS?

Ron Gorman

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Nov 2, 2009 3:57:29 AM
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Hi Larry,

Once again, stamp your feet and yell loudly saying that it is unacceptable! Contact members of your Board of Directors and complain. The Web is not owned by Microsoft or Apple and any web application should work in all modern web browsers - Firefox for Windows & Mac, Safari for Mac and IE 6.x and up. (IE has fallen to about a 70% market share, so even Windows users are abandoning IE as the browser of choice.) So a better argument to them is not Windows vs. Mac, but IE vs. Firefox. That might be something they CAN understand since if you mention being a Mac user, their eyes probably glaze over. ;-)

Are you paying to access your MLS? If so, then you and others need to insist that you not be treated as 2nd class citizens any more. This is not rocket science as I build all of my web sites to play virtually the same in all modern browsers. Obviously they need some "real" web designers on their technical team. Ha!

There really is no excuse in 2009 (14 years after the Web became popular for everyone) for any web application to be tied to just one web browser or to just one computer platform. Demand that they come into the New Millennium... 9 years later.

Win

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Summit Web Design
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Nov 2, 2009 4:23:32 AM
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Larry,
You'd think with all of the OS problems Windows users have experienced over the last few years they would quit being so defensive and recognize that there really is a better way. The number of crossovers is growing by the month and there is no doubt it is related to the Vista/Windows 7 fiasco.
Have you noticed the microsoft ads lately? They are almost directly admitting that Vista was a huge problem for them and promising that Windows 7 will solve the problem.
Have you tried Parallel Desktop? The latest version of Parallel is supposed to work with Windows 7 which I assume would run the latest version of IE.
Good luck,

John
John E Cleek, Ph.D., e-PRO, ABR, CSP
Education and Marketing Consultant
Licensed in Kansas and Missouri
Crown Realty of Kansas
Pho: 913-709-4423 • Fax: 913-837-2549
Finding the RIGHT REALTOR . . . Priceless!

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I downloaded OmniWeb as you suggested and tried to access my MLS as you suggested, and those clueless programmers had done such a good job that the MLS wouldn't let me in.

We use MLXchange, and there is no known way around the IE wall they have erected around their website. They promised us access next year, but last year they promised it for this year. Our MLS is run by Windows devotees who are totally unsympathetic and mystified by anyone who would want to use anything else.

Crossover for Mac will work but only as IE 6, which is slow and clumsy and lacks support for tabbed browsing, which I need for the type work I do. Here's hoping for equity in the marketplace soon.

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Nov 2, 2009 4:25:52 AM
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Richard,

Using Safari 4.0.3 with Mac OS 10.5.8 the idea is the same but the process is different.
When I am in Safari, the top line menu has a pull down menu "Develop"
When you click on this menu the top line is another expandable menu "Open Page with" and you are given the options of all of the browsers you have resident on your computer.
The second line is another exandable menu "User Agent" which has multiple versions of each of your browsers. I have not tried clicking on all of these to see what happens but it is a good work around when you encounter a draconian website that only works with one specific browser.

John
John E Cleek, Ph.D., e-PRO, ABR, CSP
Education and Marketing Consultant
Licensed in Kansas and Missouri
Crown Realty of Kansas
Pho: 913-709-4423 • Fax: 913-837-2549
Finding the RIGHT REALTOR . . . Priceless!

On Oct 30, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Richard Yeager wrote:

Mac Group

Try OmniWeb:

http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omniweb/

Click on the Preferences icon in the right corner and the Pref pane will appear at the bottom of the page. Click on the Other tab and you can tell OmniWeb to identify itself to the stupid services as Internet Explorer on Windows. That's what I use when I encounter websites that clueless programmers have touched.

Richard Yeager, e-PRO
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Nov 2, 2009 8:26:17 AM
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Win, you are so right on!! Firefox vs. IE should be the platform for our cry for equality!! Let's all take Win's advice to protest the inequities in the marketplace with MLS and browsers.

My MLS even specifies which version of IE to use. How can they get away with that?

Thanks for all your posts on this topic.

Morgan Mason

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