Rates fell for the third straight week. They hit the lowest point since May 21st and they reached the 6th lowest point in history. It will come as no shock to those that have been following rates that the 5 lower rates all occurred this year. Below are the 6 lowest rates of all time.

April 30th - 4.78
April 2nd - 4.78
April 23rd - 4.80
April 16th - 4.82
May 21st - 4.82
Nov 19th - 4.83

As we can see although it's the 6th lowest it's extremely close to the all time low of 4.78 reached in April. Falling below 4.78 at this point would be significant though. While it would not make a big difference in actual mortgage payments it would create headlines. And having a bunch of stories about historically low mortgage rates could push some buyers off the fence and help increase sales.

In addition to the 30 year rate falling the other major mortgage products fell as well this week. In fact the 15 year mortgage and the 5 year arm both hit all time lows this week. Below are rates from the weeks from Oct 22, 2009 to Nov 19, 2009. We also showed rates from April 30th, 2009 which was the all time low for the 30 year mortgage.

Nov 19, 2009
30-yr 4.83 15-yr 4.32 5-yr ARM 4.25 1-yr ARM 4.35

Nov 12, 2009
30-yr 4.91 15-yr 4.36 5-yr ARM 4.29 1-yr ARM 4.46

Nov 05, 2009
30-yr 4.98 15-yr 4.40 5-yr ARM 4.35 1-yr ARM 4.47

Oct 29, 2009
30-yr 5.03 15-yr 4.46 5-yr ARM 4.42 1-yr ARM 4.57

Oct 22, 2009
30-yr 5.00 15-yr 4.43 5-yr ARM 4.40 1-yr ARM 4.54

Apr 30, 2009
30-yr 4.78 15-yr 4.48 5-yr ARM 4.80 1-yr ARM 4.77

So now that we have locked at rates lets look at actual mortgage payments. We took current rates and translated them into a mortgage payment for a 200k mortgage. We also did the same thing with rates from November 19th (2 weeks ago) and from April 30, 2009 (the all time low for the 30 year rate.

Nov 19
30-yr $1052.96
15-yr $1511.65
5-yr ARM $983.87
1-yr ARM $995.62

Nov 05
30-yr $1071.19
15-yr $1519.78
5-yr ARM $995.62
1-yr ARM $1009.8

Apr 30
30-yr $1046.91
15-yr $1527.94
5-yr ARM $1049.33
1-yr ARM $1045.7

So based on current mortgage rates the payment on a 200k loan would be $1052.96. What's interesting is that the payment is 1.7% less than what it was two weeks ago. On the other hand the payment based on today's rates is only 0.5% higher than what it was on April 30th when the 30 year rate hit its all time low.

So what is advice to people looking for mortgage? Although the 5 year arm is at an all time low I would avoid ARM's at this point. Looking at historical mortgage rates it would seem that most likely rates will be significantly higher in 5 years than what we are seeing currently.

Now is probably a going time to lock in a mortgage rate. With rates just barely above all time lows the chances of rates falling drastically is pretty low. On the other hand rates have a lot more room to move up.


Ki works in Central Austin. His website distributes free information on Austin Tx real estate to potential buyers. His site also has a free mortgage calculator and a interest rate widget.

So are sub 5.0 rates gone forever? The short answer is probably yes. While rates might briefly fall below 5 in the next month for the most part the era of sub 5.0 rates is over. Mortgage rates rose for the third straight week. The thirty year rate rose from 5.00 to 5.03. The 15 year rate rose from 4.43 to 4.46. The 5 and 1 year rates rose from 4.40 to 4.42 and 4.54 to 4.57. Its interesting to note that the 1 year arm has had a higher rate than the 5 year arm for the last few weeks. Below are rates for the last few weeks.

Oct 29, 2009
30-yr 5.03 15-yr 4.46 5-yr ARM 4.42 1-yr ARM 4.57

Oct 22, 2009
30-yr 5.00 15-yr 4.43 5-yr ARM 4.40 1-yr ARM 4.54

Oct 15, 2009
30-yr 4.92 15-yr 4.37 5-yr ARM 4.38 1-yr ARM 4.60

Oct 08, 2009
30-yr 4.87 15-yr 4.33 5-yr ARM 4.35 1-yr ARM 4.53

Oct 01, 2009
30-yr 4.94 15-yr 4.36 5-yr ARM 4.42 1-yr ARM 4.49

Apr 02, 2009
30-yr 5.05 15-yr 5.13 5-yr ARM 5.00 1-yr ARM 4.78

The only two mortgage products that are interesting is the 30 year and the 15 year fixed rates. With 1 year rates higher than the 5 year arm they are obviously pointless. And with current rates low compared to historical mortgage rates the lower rates of the 5 year arm (compared to the 30 year rate) don't seem worth the risk. In addition to mortgage rates lets look at mortgage payments. Taking today's rates we can translate them into a payment for a 200k mortgage. We did the same thing with rates from October 15th (2 weeks ago) and April 2 (6 months ago).

Oct 29
30-yr $1077.31
15-yr $1525.9
5-yr ARM $1003.88
1-yr ARM $1021.7

Oct 15
30-yr $1063.88
15-yr $1516.73
5-yr ARM $999.16
1-yr ARM $1025.28

Apr 02
30-yr $1079.76
15-yr $1595.16
5-yr ARM $1073.64
1-yr ARM $1046.91

A mortgage payment is about $13 more than 2 weeks ago and about $2 less than it was six months ago.

So why are rates rising? Although its a weak recovery, the economy by most accounts is experiencing a recovery. In addition, the government has lowered the amount of mortgage backed securities it was buying which was keeping rates artifically low.

So what is our advice to people interested in buying a house? It might seem obvious but I would lock in now instead of waiting. Almost all signs point to mortgage rates rising over the next few months. The real question is will the strengthing real estate market be able to withstand higher rates? We will have to wait to find out.


Ki writes frequently about the mortgage industry and mortgage rates. He caters to the real estate market in Austin. His site www.escapesomewhere.com www.escapesomewhere.com has information on historical mortgage rates along with a free mortgage widget.

The 30 year rate rose again this week rising from 4.92 to 5.00. Now in the last two weeks 30 year mortgage rates have risen from 4.87 to 5.00. Most of the other major mortgage products rose as well. The 15 year rate rose from 4.37 to 4.43. Both the 5 year arm rising from 4.38 to 4.40 and the 1 year arm was the only product to fall moving from 4.60 to 4.54.

While this is not a huge jump the question is are we seeing the tip of the iceberg with rising rates? The expectation has been that rates would rise as the economy improves. While the economy is by no means doing well it seems to be improving from what we have seen in the last year. Additionally, the government has lowered its volume of buying mortgage backed securities. This has helped mortgage rates to rise in the last two weeks and led to speculation of further rises. Below are rates for the last few weeks.

Oct 22, 2009
30-yr 5.00 15-yr 4.43 5-yr ARM 4.40 1-yr ARM 4.54

Oct 15, 2009
30-yr 4.92 15-yr 4.37 5-yr ARM 4.38 1-yr ARM 4.60

Oct 08, 2009
30-yr 4.87 15-yr 4.33 5-yr ARM 4.35 1-yr ARM 4.53

Oct 01, 2009
30-yr 4.94 15-yr 4.36 5-yr ARM 4.42 1-yr ARM 4.49

Sep 24, 2009
30-yr 5.04 15-yr 4.46 5-yr ARM 4.51 1-yr ARM 4.52

Mar 26, 2009
30-yr 4.85 15-yr 4.58 5-yr ARM 4.96 1-yr ARM 4.85

In spite of the increases rates are still relatively low. They are lower than at any point before January 2009 and lower than they were just last month. In addition to looking at rates we also like to see mortgage payments. Using our mortgage calculator we translated rates from October 22, October 8 and March 26 into a mortgage payment for a 200k loan.

Oct 22
30-yr $1073.64
15-yr $1522.84
5-yr ARM $1001.52
1-yr ARM $1018.12

Oct 08
30-yr $1057.8
15-yr $1512.66
5-yr ARM $995.62
1-yr ARM $1016.93

Mar 26
30-yr $1055.38
15-yr $1538.17
5-yr ARM $1068.75
1-yr ARM $1055.38

As we can see again there is not a huge difference. Compared to 6 months ago a mortgage payment is only 1.73 percent higher ($18.26 more a month).

So what is going to happen moving forward? The fear of rates hitting 12 percent has probably lessoned. Basically if the economy quickly recovered the speculation was that inflation could spiral out of control. Since the economic recovery seems to be a somewhat slow process the expectation is that mortgage rates and inflation will rise but it's doubtful they will move above 10 percent.

That said if one is looking at buying its best to lock in rates now considering that rates are rising and the expectation is that they will probably be higher a month from now.


Ki has lived and worked in Austin, Texas for over 10 years. He has a comprehensive understanding of Austin Tx real estate. His site provides graphs of historical mortgage interest rates along with a free mortgage calculator.

After falling for the last 6 weeks mortgage rates started to rise this week. The 30 year rate rose from 4.87 to 4.92. The 15 year mortgage rose from 4.33 to 4.37. Both arms rose as well with the 5 year arm rising from 4.35 to 4.38 and the 1 year arm rising from 4.53 to 4.60. Below are mortgage rates for the last several weeks along with mortgage rates from March 19, 2009.

Oct 15, 2009
30-yr 4.92 15-yr 4.37 5-yr ARM 4.38 1-yr ARM 4.60

Oct 08, 2009
30-yr 4.87 15-yr 4.33 5-yr ARM 4.35 1-yr ARM 4.53

Oct 01, 2009
30-yr 4.94 15-yr 4.36 5-yr ARM 4.42 1-yr ARM 4.49

Sep 24, 2009
30-yr 5.04 15-yr 4.46 5-yr ARM 4.51 1-yr ARM 4.52

Sep 17, 2009
30-yr 5.04 15-yr 4.47 5-yr ARM 4.51 1-yr ARM 4.58

Mar 19, 2009
30-yr 4.98 15-yr 4.61 5-yr ARM 4.98 1-yr ARM 4.91

Overall its not that interesting that rates moved up. Moving up .05 points is not that significant. For the last few months the speculation has been that rates are going to eventually move up. Additionally, the federal government has been pulling back on the amount of mortgage securities it was buying (which was pushing mortgage rates down). So the question is whether this weeks rise in mortgage rates was just normal volatility or the beginning of the steady rise in mortgage rates that some have been predicting. At this point it's an impossible question to answer for the most part we will have to wait and see.

In addition to rates it's also interesting to look at mortgage payments. We took today's rates and determined the mortgage payment on a 200k loan. We also did the same thing with rates from October 1st (2 weeks ago) and March 12, 2009 (6 months ago).

Oct 15
30-yr $1063.88
15-yr $1516.73
5-yr ARM $999.16
1-yr ARM $1025.28

Oct 01
30-yr $1066.32
15-yr $1515.71
5-yr ARM $1003.88
1-yr ARM $1012.18

Mar 12
30-yr $1077.31
15-yr $1544.33
5-yr ARM $1072.42
1-yr ARM $1049.33

Overall looking at mortgage rates/mortgage payments from 2 weeks and 6 months ago we are not seeing a lot of movement. Compared to March 12 (6 months ago) a mortgage payment on a 200k loan would only be $13.42 less a month or 1.24 percent less. By comparison if rates rise to 7 percent (historically about average) a mortgage payment would be 266.72 more a month or a rise of 25%. While a rise to 7 percent seems like a lot many experts are expecting rates to move up to 9 or 10 percent.

So what is our advice for people looking for a mortgage? First it's probably best to start looking for a mortgage early on in the home buying process. It's more difficult to get a loan and waiting to the last minute is not advisable. Additionally, it's probably advisable to lock in a rate earlier instead of later. While mortgage rates could fall its doubtful they could drop by much at this point. On the other hand it's possible that mortgage rates could move up dramatically. So there is more to lose than gain by waiting to lock in on a mortgage. If mortgage rates do start to rise dramatically it could deal a serious blow to the real estate recovery we are currently seeing in several markets around the country.


Ki works in Austin real estate. His site has different mortgage widgets to keep track of mortgage rates. His site escapesomewhere.com has information on Austin along with a blog focused on Austin Texas real estate

Although the rich and famous are rich and famous, it doesn't mean that they are impervious to the popping of the real estate bubble. Many have succumbed to real estate woes as of late.

Ed McMahon had tabloids a talking when his real estate troubles became front page news last year. The now deceased celebrity attributed his dollar difficulties to alimony paid out to ex-wives and the economic downturn.

Aretha Franklin set the record straight about her exclusive Detroit suburban home. It went into foreclosure due to non-payment of property tax. She could have lost her $400,000 home to foreclosure due to $445 in back property taxes that accumulated into $20,000, since 2005. She said it was an oversight by her attorney. Once alerted of the situation, the Queen of Soul satisfied the debt.

Amber Frey, infamous ex-mistress of convicted murderer Scott Peterson lost her home northern California home to foreclosure. At auction, the asking price was over $200,000 less than the original purchase price. No one snatched up the deal at a low $305,000. She ended up surrendering the property to the bank.

Fantasia of American Idol fame came close to losing her home in Charlotte, North Carolina. The R&B singer settled with her Florida lender just days before the auction was scheduled to sell her pond-front home.

Extreme Makeover scandal hit the Harper family home in Atlanta, George when it went into foreclosure and would have been sold had it not been for ... even more ... generous donations. The most expansive Extreme Makeover ever seen was completed with much dedication, sweat and effort by volunteers, along with a deluge of donated dollars. Taking out a $400,000+ loan for a construction business that went belly up put the Harper's home in harm's way.

Laura Richardson, California Congresswoman, fell behind on property tax and mortgage payments in 2008. To the disdain of Sharon Helmar who sold it to her, the Long Beach home went into foreclosure and was sold. Neighbors noted that she did not keep up the lawn or take out her garbage.

Sports figures are not unfamiliar with foreclosure, either. Latrell "Spree" Sprewell, former NBA guard known for choking his then Coach P. J. Carlesimo, lost his 70-foot yacht and his Milwaukee home to foreclosure. Assessed at a mere $668,000, the home's value was nowhere near what most other sports professionals in his pay range own.

Jose Conseco experienced women woes, which caused him to lose his expansive 7,300 square foot Encino, California mansion. At least, that's his story. He said he lost $7 to $8 million on his two divorces that left him hard up for cash and was unable to pay his mortgage.

Not to anyone's surprise, Michael Vick's home was in foreclosure, since he was in prison and no longer could come up with the cash. Once NFL's highest paid player, the dog-fight diva was convicted and was to serve 23 months in prison. He was released earlier this year to serve out the rest of his sentence in home confinement.

Evander Holyfield, famous for his fight with Mike "I'll Bite Your Ear Off" Tyson, had his Fairburn, Georgia home in foreclosure. He was also behind on child support payments to a mother of one of his eleven children, and being sued for not paying $550,000 he loaned he owed to a consulting company.

Michael Jackson (King of Pop), MC Hammer (Hammertime fame), Veronica Hearst (Randolph Hearst widow), Scott Storch (previous hip-hop producer), Damon Dash (hip-hop mogul), Doug E. Fresh (rap icon), Vin Baker (former NBA star), Wyclef Jean (Fugees' frontman) and other famous actors, performers and sports professionals have all experienced foreclosure.

Ki graduated from UT with a CS degree. Now he works with Austin real estate. He has a website allowing buyers to search Austin MLS listings. He also keeps an updated blog on Austin Texas real estate.

Mortgage Rates fell this week with the 30 year rate dropping from 5.42 to 5.32. They have fallen .27 points from their recent high of 5.59 reached on June 11, 2009. Rates are still up from the all time low of 4.78 they reached on April 30, 2009. Except for the 1 year arm the other major rates dropped as well. The 15 year fixed rate dropped from 4.87 to 4.77 and the 5 year arm dropped from 4.99 to 4.88. The one year arm rose slightly from 4.93 to 4.94. Below are rates for the last few weeks.

Jul 02, 2009
30-yr 5.32 15-yr 4.77 5-yr ARM 4.88 1-yr ARM 4.94

Jun 25, 2009
30-yr 5.42 15-yr 4.87 5-yr ARM 4.99 1-yr ARM 4.93

Jun 18, 2009
30-yr 5.38 15-yr 4.89 5-yr ARM 4.97 1-yr ARM 4.95

Jun 11, 2009
30-yr 5.59 15-yr 5.06 5-yr ARM 5.17 1-yr ARM 5.04

Jun 04, 2009
30-yr 5.29 15-yr 4.79 5-yr ARM 4.85 1-yr ARM 4.81

Dec 31, 2008
30-yr 5.10 15-yr 4.83 5-yr ARM 5.57 1-yr ARM 4.85

In addition to rates we also like to analyze mortgage payments. Using our free mortgage calculator we took today's mortgage rates and translated them into a mortgage payment for a 200k loan. We did the same thing with rates from June 25, 2009 and December 31, 2008 (6 months ago).

Jul 02
30-yr $1113.09
15-yr $1557.72
5-yr ARM $1059.02
1-yr ARM $1066.32

Jun 25
30-yr $1125.55
15-yr $1568.07
5-yr ARM $1072.42
1-yr ARM $1065.1

Dec 31
30-yr $1085.89
15-yr $1563.93
5-yr ARM $1144.37
1-yr ARM $1055.38

While a potential mortgage payment is down from last week it is up $27.20 (2.5 percent) from 6 months ago.

Although rates are low it's important to note that loans are not freely available. Banks are still extremely strict on the properties and individuals that will receive loans. For instance loans for non warrantable condos (where 50% or more of the units are rented instead of owner occupied) have pretty much disappeared. The credit scores thresholds needed for a loan have increased as well. So although mortgage rates are near historic lows the lending industry continues to be the biggest negative factor dragging on the real estate market.
So what do we expect to see moving forward? There is a huge upward pressure on mortgage rates because of the amount of borrowing the US government has engaged in over the last year. So while it's hard to know what is going to happen over the next month we should see higher mortgage rates in the next year. Since rates are going to be higher this is a good reason to avoid the 1 year arm since by the time the arm expires rates could be over 8 percent.

More importantly is whether the lending industry will ease up on some of the current mortgage restrictions. While when the market finally improves it's assumed some lending restrictions will disappear but it's doubtful that lending restrictions will ease up before then.


Ki lives in Austin Texas. His site provides a mortgage widget along with a free mortgage calculator. It also has a search for Austin Tx real estate.

Mortgage rates fell for the second week in a row. 30 year rates fell to a 40 year low to start the year dropping down to 4.96 on January 15th. After that rates rose up to 5.25. Now rates have fallen back to almost reach their previous lows. In fact this is the lowest rates have been in 40 year with the exception of the first two weeks of 2009. Below are rates for the last few weeks.

Feb 19, 2009
30-yr 5.04 15-yr 4.68 5-yr ARM 5.04 1-yr ARM 4.80

Feb 12, 2009
30-yr 5.16 15-yr 4.81 5-yr ARM 5.23 1-yr ARM 4.94

Feb 05, 2009
30-yr 5.25 15-yr 4.92 5-yr ARM 5.26 1-yr ARM 4.92

Jan 29, 2009
30-yr 5.10 15-yr 4.80 5-yr ARM 5.27 1-yr ARM 4.90

Jan 22, 2009
30-yr 5.12 15-yr 4.80 5-yr ARM 5.24 1-yr ARM 4.92

The 5 year Arm fell quite a bit this week and is now equal to the 30 year rate (This is the first time since November 20, 2008 that the 5 year arm is not above the 30 year arm). But it's still a pointless rate because why get a 5 year arm when you could get the same rate on a 30 year fixed mortgage. The same can be said of the 1 year arm since it does not offer that much savings over the 30 year rate.

The 15 year rate fell this week and is now also sitting at the lowest point in 40 years with the exception of the first two weeks of 2009. I always like to translate mortgage rates into actual mortgage payments. Below are mortgage payments for a 200k loan based on today's rates and rates from a week and a month ago.

Feb 19
30-yr 1078.53
15-yr 1548.44
5-yr ARM 1078.53
1-yr ARM 1049.33

Feb 12
30-yr 1093.28
15-yr 1561.86
5-yr ARM 1101.93
1-yr ARM 1066.32

Jan 22
30-yr 1088.35
15-yr 1560.82
5-yr ARM 1103.16
1-yr ARM 1063.88

Messing around with our mortgage calculator I found something kind of interesting that illustrates the importance of mortgage rates on payments. If you got a 200k loan with a 30 year mortgage in 1995 the rate would have been around 9 percent and the mortgage payment would have been around $1625. Assuming you never refinanced you would pay off the loan in 2025.

Now if you got a 200k mortgage today you could get a 15 year mortgage with a 4.68 percent rate and pay only $1548.44. In addition, you would actually pay off the mortgage a year earlier in 2024.

So what is my advice in the current market? First I would avoid the 5 and 1 year arm. The rates are relatively high and it makes more sense to lock in with a long term rate when rates are at historic lows. Second I would look into getting a mortgage before spending too much time looking for a house. Basically although rates are low lenders are still pretty picky these days about finances. In addition, if there is anything weird with your credit score finding out early will allow you to have time to fix any outstanding issues.

So as far as the mortgage market what do we expect to happen over the next few weeks? Basically with the stock market hitting 6 year lows recently and hovering near 12 year lows and the bailout getting passed it seems that the market is going to be pretty volatile over the next few weeks. So I could see rates going up or down by possibly as much as half a point. If you have found a house you like it might make sense to lock in now but watch rates and try to relock if they fall significantly over the next week or two.

Ki maintains a website with information about Austin Tx real estate. It also has a free mortgage calculator along with updated graphs on mortgage interest rates.

Mortgage rates came down a little this week. We are still not back down to the levels we saw two weeks ago. 30 year rates fell from 5.25 to 5.16. This is a little higher than the 5.10 we saw two weeks ago and .2 points higher than the 4.96 we saw 4 weeks ago. But to put this all in perspective if we neglect the last month 5.16 is still one of the lowest rates we have seen in over 40 years.

One point of confusion is that when looking at average rates people relate it to a rate a friend or colleague got a few weeks ago. For instance if you had a friend that got a rate of 4.3 last week and see rates are at 5.16 you might think you really missed the boat. But 4.3 is lower than anything that has been officially published. Often these rates are down to paying more points to drive down the interest rate or they might be due to a special deal for instance a University offering professors a special rate. All this is to say if you have a friend that got a rate below 4.5 a few weeks ago don't fret you should be able to a similar rate today that is only slightly higher. Below are rates for the last few weeks. The rates on January 15th mark the lowest rates we have seen in 40 years and easily the lowest rates of the year.

Feb 12, 2009
30-yr 5.16 15-yr 4.81 5-yr ARM 5.23 1-yr ARM 4.94

Feb 05, 2009
30-yr 5.25 15-yr 4.92 5-yr ARM 5.26 1-yr ARM 4.92

Jan 29, 2009
30-yr 5.10 15-yr 4.80 5-yr ARM 5.27 1-yr ARM 4.90

Jan 22, 2009
30-yr 5.12 15-yr 4.80 5-yr ARM 5.24 1-yr ARM 4.92

Jan 15, 2009
30-yr 4.96 15-yr 4.65 5-yr ARM 5.25 1-yr ARM 4.89

Besides the drop in the 30 year rate we also saw a similar drop with the 15 year fixed rate. Both the 5 year arm and the 1 arm stayed mostly steady. Looking at rates is interesting but we like to translate it into mortgage payments. We took today's rates and translated them into a mortgage payment on a 200k loan. We did the same thing with rates from a week ago. We also looked at what the mortgage payment would be based on rates from January 15th (the lowest rates so far).

Feb 12
30-yr 1093.28
15-yr 1561.86
5-yr ARM 1101.93
1-yr ARM 1066.32

Feb 05
30-yr 1104.4
15-yr 1573.26
5-yr ARM 1105.64
1-yr ARM 1063.88

Jan 15
30-yr 1068.75
15-yr 1545.36
5-yr ARM 1104.4
1-yr ARM 1060.23

Looking at the 30 year rate we notice that while today's payment would be higher than what one would have paid based on January 15th rates its not that much higher. If we look back a few months ago to October 30th when rates were at 6.46 the potential payment on a 200k mortgage would be $1258.87. All this is to say that rates have come up recently but all in all they are still low to what we have seen over the last several years.


Ki writes regularly about mortgage rates and the mortgage industry. His site has a search for homes in the Austin MLS along with mortgage calculator widget.

After falling for the last 2 months 30 year mortgage rates jumped up this week. The 30 year mortgage went from 5.10 to 5.25. This is the highest we have seen December 11, 2008. The 15 year mortgage moved up as well from 4.80 to 4.92. Below are rates for the last few weeks.

Feb 05, 2008
30-yr 5.25 15-yr 4.92 5-yr ARM 5.26 1-yr ARM 4.92

Jan 29, 2008
30-yr 5.10 15-yr 4.80 5-yr ARM 5.27 1-yr ARM 4.90

Jan 22, 2008
30-yr 5.12 15-yr 4.80 5-yr ARM 5.24 1-yr ARM 4.92

Jan 15, 2008
30-yr 4.96 15-yr 4.65 5-yr ARM 5.25 1-yr ARM 4.89

Jan 08, 2008
30-yr 5.01 15-yr 4.62 5-yr ARM 5.49 1-yr ARM 4.95

The 5 year arm and the 1 year arm for the most part held steady. The 5 year arm still remains a pointless mortgage option since it is above the 30 year rate. The 1 year rate is moving back to almost being a viable option. While the difference between the 1 year arm and the 30 year fixed is still not great enough to see many people choosing the 1 year arm, if the 30 year rate rises more next week I could see the 1 year arm starting to see more activity. In addition to looking at rates we wanted to also look at actual mortgage payments. We took today's rates and determined what the mortgage payment would be on a 200k mortgage. We also did the same thing with rates from a week ago and rates from January 15th when rates hit their lowest point so far.

Feb 05
30-yr 1104.4
15-yr 1573.26
5-yr ARM 1105.64
1-yr ARM 1063.88

Jan 29
30-yr 1085.89
15-yr 1560.82
5-yr ARM 1106.88
1-yr ARM 1061.45

Jan 15
30-yr 1068.75
15-yr 1545.36
5-yr ARM 1104.4
1-yr ARM 1060.23

Compared to January 15th ones potential mortgage payment has risen about 3.2 percent. This is a decent rise for this short of a period of time.

So if you were planning on purchasing and didn't lock in 3 weeks ago did you miss the boat? I would say yes and no. The rates 3 weeks ago were at 30 year lows and they have risen quite a bit since then. But looking over the last several decades today's rates are still very very low.

It's hard to know what is going to happen moving forward. Without direct government involvement I don't see rates falling back to what we saw a few weeks ago. So that begs the question, are we ever going to see the proposed 4.5 government sponsored loan become a reality? The difficulty of passing the recent economic stimulus package makes it look like passing additional programs might be tough as well. And if it does pass there are probably going to be some strings attached. Currently I would peg the chance of it passing at around 50%. But if the housing market weakens this month I would think the prospects of a 4.5% government mortgage would rise substantially.


Ki writes regularly about mortgage rates. His site has free mortgage calculator along with general information about Austin Tx real estate.

Mortgage rates for the most part held steady this week. The 30 year rate dropped from 5.12 to 5.10. Rates are still at historic lows. The rates for the last month have all been below anything we have seen in the last 40 years since we started tracking weekly mortgage rates. The 15 year rate held steady at 4.8. The 5 year arm rose from 5.24 to 5.27 and the 1 year arm dropped from 4.92 to 4.90. What the numbers below don't reflect is that rates mid week were a little higher midweek. But by the end of the week they had fallen. Below are rates for the last few weeks.

Jan 29, 2008
30-yr 5.10 15-yr 4.80 5-yr ARM 5.27 1-yr ARM 4.90

Jan 22, 2008
30-yr 5.12 15-yr 4.80 5-yr ARM 5.24 1-yr ARM 4.92

Jan 15, 2008
30-yr 4.96 15-yr 4.65 5-yr ARM 5.25 1-yr ARM 4.89

Jan 08, 2008
30-yr 5.01 15-yr 4.62 5-yr ARM 5.49 1-yr ARM 4.95

Dec 31, 2008
30-yr 5.10 15-yr 4.83 5-yr ARM 5.57 1-yr ARM 4.85

If you are planning on putting 20% down the 5 year arm and the 1 year arm are pretty pointless. The 5 year arm is above the 30 year fixed rate. The 1 year arm is below the 30 year fixed but doesn't really offer enough savings to be worth the tradeoff of forgoing locking in at historic lows. We have seen a trend recently where on some properties banks are allowing borrowers to get 10 percent down for a 5 or 1 year arm but are requiring 20 percent for a 30 year loan. I am not sure why banks are favoring arm's since that is what got them into this mess. Ok so in addition to looking at rates lets look at mortgage payments. We looked at a mortgage payment based on today's rates for a 200k loan. We also did the same thing looking at rates from 2 weeks ago (which was all time low point for the 30 year fixed rate mortgage). We also looked at rates from 2 months ago.

Jan 29
30-yr 1085.89
15-yr 1560.82
5-yr ARM 1106.88
1-yr ARM 1061.45

Jan 15
30-yr 1068.75
15-yr 1545.36
5-yr ARM 1104.4
1-yr ARM 1060.23

November 20th
30-yr $1204.24
15-yr $1658.67
5-yr ARM $1182.43
1-yr ARM $1109.36

As we can see although a mortgage payment would have been a little less 2 weeks ago all in all rates and mortgage payments have not changed that much. But we are still seeing substantial savings from 2 months ago.

So what is our advice. It should be pretty obvious but with rates at all time lows the time to refinance is now. In addition, if you are currently thinking of getting a mortgage I would lock in an interest rate sooner rather than later.

In general there is still more of a risk of rates going up over the next month than down. Rates simply don't have that much room to fall. So most likely we should see rates hold even or rise over the next month. In addition, there is a risk that rates could rise rapidly over the next 6 months if the economy improves.

Ki writes regularly about mortgage rates. His site provides a search of the Austin MLS along with a free mortgage calculator

This is getting just ridiculous. This is now the 12th week in a row where mortgage rates have fallen. Ok one small caveat to that this is the 12th week where the 30 year mortgage rate has fallen. But in the current environment the 30 year mortgage rate is almost the only mortgage product that matters. The 30 year rate fell this week from 5.01 to 4.96. The 5 year arm fell (from 5.49 to 5.25) and the 1 year arm declined slightly (from 4.95 to 4.89). But frankly who cares, as long as these rates stay above the 30 year mortgage (i.e. the 5 year arm) or just slightly below the 30 year mortgage (the 1 year arm) there is no real reason to consider these mortgage products. Rates for a 15 year mortgage rose slightly from 4.62 to 4.65. Below are rates for the last few weeks.

Jan 15, 2008
30-yr 4.96 15-yr 4.65 5-yr ARM 5.25 1-yr ARM 4.89

Jan 08, 2008
30-yr 5.01 15-yr 4.62 5-yr ARM 5.49 1-yr ARM 4.95

Dec 31, 2008
30-yr 5.10 15-yr 4.83 5-yr ARM 5.57 1-yr ARM 4.85

Dec 24, 2008
30-yr 5.14 15-yr 4.91 5-yr ARM 5.49 1-yr ARM 4.95

Dec 18, 2008
30-yr 5.19 15-yr 4.92 5-yr ARM 5.60 1-yr ARM 4.94

So I wanted to look at actual mortgage payments in addition to mortgage rates. When we talk of rates dropping sometimes its interesting to translate those rate drops into real dollars. We translated today's rates into a mortgage payment for a 200k loan. We also looked at rates from two weeks ago and rates from October 30th (this was the date when rates first started to fall).

Jan 15
30-yr $1068.75
15-yr $1545.36
5-yr ARM $1104.4
1-yr ARM $1060.23

Dec 31
30-yr $1085.89
15-yr $1563.93
5-yr ARM $1144.37
1-yr ARM $1055.38

Oct 30th
30-yr $1258.87
15-yr $1708.31
5-yr ARM $1245.77
1-yr ARM $1120.56

So if we look at what mortgage payments would be today compared to October 30th is fairly apparent that rates and correspondingly mortgage payments have plummeted. For a 30 year mortgage on a 200k loan the payment has come down from $1258.87 to $1068.75. That is a drop of $190.12 or 15.1%. That is a pretty huge drop in a few months.

So what is going to happen moving forward. Rates can obviously not continue to go down week after week. At this point I think there is a bigger risk of rates going up than going down. I would be surprised if rates continue to go down for 3 or 4 more weeks. In the next few months I would expect rates to continue to hover around 5 percent plus or minus half a point. Basically the government is going to do whatever possible to keep rates low. In the next two or three years its expected interest rates will rise dramatically. All the money that has been pushed into the economy will at some point increase inflation and this will in turn push up mortgage rates.


Ki writes regularly about mortgage rates and the mortgage industry. His site has a search of the Austin MLS along with a mortgage calculator widget

So rates fell slightly this week. This marks the 10th week in a row rates have fallen. This is also the 3rd week where the the 30 year mortgage rate (the most popular mortgage product) has hit new 30 year lows. The 30 year rate fell from 5.14 to 5.10. The 5 year arm rose from 5.49 to 5.57. As long as the 5 year rate is higher than the 30 year arm it doesnt really matter if it rises or falls because no one is using it. The 1 year arm fell from 4.95 to 4.85 and the 15 year arm fell from 4.91 to 4.83. Even though these rates fell more than the 30 year rate these mortgage rates are still pretty pointless. As long as the 30 year rate is this low it really makes more sense to lock into this rate for the long term.


Dec 31, 2008
30-yr 5.10 15-yr 4.83 5-yr ARM 5.57 1-yr ARM 4.85

Dec 24, 2008
30-yr 5.14 15-yr 4.91 5-yr ARM 5.49 1-yr ARM 4.95

Dec 18, 2008
30-yr 5.19 15-yr 4.92 5-yr ARM 5.60 1-yr ARM 4.94

Dec 11, 2008
30-yr 5.47 15-yr 5.20 5-yr ARM 5.82 1-yr ARM 5.09

Dec 04, 2008
30-yr 5.53 15-yr 5.33 5-yr ARM 5.77 1-yr ARM 5.02

So lets take rates and translate them into a mortgage payment. We ran the current rates on a 200k mortgage. Then we looked at rates from last week and from a October 30th when rates first started their historic fall.

Dec 31
30-yr 1085.89
15-yr 1563.93
5-yr ARM 1144.37
1-yr ARM 1055.38

Dec 24
30-yr 1090.82
15-yr 1572.22
5-yr ARM 1134.32
1-yr ARM 1067.53

October 30th
30-yr $1258.87
15-yr $1708.31
5-yr ARM $1245.77
1-yr ARM $1120.56

So the savings from last week are not that impressive. But compared to October 30th we are seeing much lower payments. Here are the savings for the different rates compared to October 30th.

Rate Dollar Amount Saved
30 yr $172.98
15-yr $144.38
5-yr ARM $101.4
1-yr ARM $65.18

Rate Percent Drop in Mortgage Payment
30 yr 13.74%
15-yr 8.45%
5-yr ARM 8.14%
1-yr ARM 5.82%

The most interesting number to me is 13.74% the percent drop for the 30 year rate in the last 2 months. That is pretty significant.

So what is going to happen moving forward. I actually think rates are headed higher over the next two years. They might decrease a little more over the next few months. The government has a pending plan to offer mortgage rates at 4.5 percent for home buyers. But the way things are headed it would be interesting if mortgage rates fell below 4.5 percent making the governments plan somewhat pointless.

But once the economy recovers most signs point toward massive inflation. Why? The Fed has been pouring billions into the economy to stop the economy from falling apart further. This would usually cause inflation except for the fact that the economy is so sluggish. But once the economy recovers the massive amounts of cash the government has pushed into the economy should cause high levels of inflation. This will most likely lead to double digit interest rates. Some thing rates will get up to 15%. So our currently historically low interest rates might be followed by historically high interest rates.


Ki writes regularly about mortgage rates. His site has a search of the Austin MLS along with a free mortgage calculator.

Mortgage Rates fell again this week. This is the ninth week in a row were rates have fallen. Last week mortgage rates were already at 50 year lows. The 30 Year mortgage rate fell from 5.19 to 5.14. This is not a huge fall. The significant point this week is that they basically stayed down at historically low levels. Here are the lowest points mortgage rates have seen for the last 30 years. 1) December 2008 5.14 2) June 2003 5.23 3) March 2004 5.45 4) May 2003 5.48 Although rates are lower than they were in 2003 and 2004 the mortgage market today is trickier. In 2003 and 2004 virtually anyone could get a decent rate. Today banks are looking closely at credit scores. In addition banks have almost no interest in giving out loans to people wanting to purchase multifamily properties. Below are rates for the last few weeks. December 24, 2008 30-yr 5.14 15-yr 4.91 5-yr ARM 5.49 1-yr ARM 4.95 December 18, 2008 30-yr 5.19 15-yr 4.92 5-yr ARM 5.60 1-yr ARM 4.94 December 11, 2008 30-yr 5.47 15-yr 5.20 5-yr ARM 5.82 1-yr ARM 5.09 December 4, 2008 30-yr 5.53 15-yr 5.33 5-yr ARM 5.77 1-yr ARM 5.02 November 26, 2008 30-yr 5.97 15-yr 5.74 5-yr ARM 5.86 1-yr ARM 5.18 While the 30 year rate and the 15 year rates have fallen we have not seen nearly as much movement in the 5 and 1 year ARM. So in addition to mortgage rates it's interesting to look at what the actual payments would be on a loan. Using our free mortgage calculator we ran the numbers on today's rates for a 200k loan. We also ran the numbers for last weeks rates and rates from October 30th. The reason we choose October 30th was because that was when we began the 9 weeks of falling rates. December 24th 30-yr $1090.82 15-yr $1572.22 5-yr ARM $1134.32 1-yr ARM $1067.53 December 18th 30-yr $1096.98 15-yr $1573.26 5-yr ARM $1148.15 1-yr ARM $1066.32 October 30th 30-yr $1258.87 15-yr $1708.31 5-yr ARM $1245.77 1-yr ARM $1120.56 Compared to last week the payment for a 30 year loan only fell a few dollars going from 1096.98 to 1090.98. On the other hand if we look back to October 30th the payment has fallen from $1258.87 to $1090.82. This is a drop of about 13.4 percent. If we also consider that prices in most areas have fallen over the same period of time this is pretty substantial savings. There is still no reason to look at Arms. The 5 year ARM still has rates above the 30 year mortgage which makes this product basically pointless. The 1 Year Arm is lower than the 30 Year rate but it's basically pointless for 2 reasons. First the difference is pretty small this week it was only .19 points. Second since 30 year rates are historical lows the small savings hardly seem worth losing the chance to lock in at historical lows. So what is going to happen with rates moving forward? I think rates are going to hold even or fall a little more over the next month. After that expectations are that rates are going to increase slightly. Once the economy recovers the massive amounts of money the Fed have pushed into the economy should lead to inflation which could push mortgage rates up to 12 or 13 percent. All that is to say over the next few months we might see the lowest rates we are going to see for the next few decades.

Mortgage rates are down to rates we have no seen in 50 years. Since the early 1970s when we have good data for mortgage rates these are the lowest rates we have seen.

1) December 2008 5.19
2) June 2003 5.23
3) March 2004 5.45
4) May 2003 5.48

Before this rates were at current levels in the late 1950s. Here are rates for the last few weeks.

December 18, 2008
30-yr 5.19 15-yr 4.92 5-yr ARM 5.60 1-yr ARM 4.94

December 11, 2008
30-yr 5.47 15-yr 5.20 5-yr ARM 5.82 1-yr ARM 5.09

December 4, 2008
30-yr 5.53 15-yr 5.33 5-yr ARM 5.77 1-yr ARM 5.02

November 26, 2008
30-yr 5.97 15-yr 5.74 5-yr ARM 5.86 1-yr ARM 5.18

November 20, 2008
30-yr 6.04 15-yr 5.73 5-yr ARM 5.87 1-yr ARM 5.29

A few things to point out, first Arms are still basically pointless. The 5 Year Arm is at 5.6 which is well above the 5.19 offered for a 30 year rate. With 1 Year Arms (at 4.94) and 15 year fixed (at 4.92) offering little savings the 30 year mortgage is pretty much king. There is almost no reason in this market to consider other mortgage products.

I want to be clear about a few things. First although rates are low they are not universally available. In 2002/2003 when rates where low they were available to everyone and they were available for people interested in single family homes as well as investors. Today low interest rates are pretty much only available to people that want to buy single family homes to live in. Investors who plan to rent out properties will receive much high rates. Also loans are really only available to people that can document their income. The limited availability of current rates is one of the reasons that the low rates are not doing more to help the current problems in the market.

So in addition to looking at rates lets look at actual payments. Using our mortgage calculator widget lets take today's rates and translate them into a payment on a 200k loan. To add some perspective we did the same thing using mortgage rates from a week ago and rates from the end of October.

December 18th
30-yr $1096.98
15-yr $1573.26
5-yr ARM $1148.15
1-yr ARM $1066.32

December 11th
30-yr $1131.81
15-yr $1602.50
5-yr ARM $1176.05
1-yr ARM $1084.67

October 30th
30-yr $1258.87
15-yr $1708.31
5-yr ARM $1245.77
1-yr ARM $1120.56

Looking at October 30th we see pretty substantial savings. For a 200k loan the payment would be $161.89 less a month or 14.7 percent less. Arms and 15 year rates are down as well but in the current market these products are pretty much pointless. Basically it's not worth saving a few dollars a month to get a 1 Year ARM and not getting a 30 year rate at historical lows.

So what are rates going to do moving forward? There is talk of the FED having a 4.5% mortgage for new home buyers. It's hard to know if this will end up happening. My advice for people thinking of refinancing is to do so now. Most of the talk I have seen is the 4.5% rate will only apply to new purchases and will not be available for people looking to refinance.

For new buyers it's a little tougher. Personally I think it's not worth it to wait and risk rates jumping up. If rates were at 5.7 it might be worth it to wait for the 4.5 rate. Bu with people getting mortgages near 5 I don't think it's worth it to wait for the government to pass legislation. Partly because even if the legislation is passed the 4.5 rate could have several strings attached.

So what is going to happen with rates next week? I don't know if they are going to go up or down but I think there is still a lot of volatility in the market. So I would not be surprised by a large jump up or down with rates similar to what we have been seeing for the last several weeks.

Ki writes regularly about the real estate market. His site has a search of the Austin MLS as well as a mortgage rates widget and mortgage calculator html for webmasters.

The financial markets hit some choppy waters this week. With successive drops of 427 and 445 points the Dow ended down substantially for the week.

For some positive news this marks the third week in a row where mortgage rates went down. The wild swings we saw earlier in mortgage rates have for the time being ended. The last 3 weeks saw less movement in all four of the major mortgage products.

30 Year mortgage rates are down to 6.04 dropping from 6.14 last week. All the other main mortgage products saw drops as well. Compared to the 30 year fixed rate the 5 year arm dropped a little more (.11 points from 5.98 to 5.87) and the 15 year dropped a little less (.08 points dropping from 5.81 to 5.73). Below are mortgage rates for the four major products for the last few weeks.

November 20, 2008
30-yr 6.04 15-yr 5.73 5-yr ARM 5.87 1-yr ARM 5.29

November 13, 2008
30-yr 6.14 15-yr 5.81 5-yr ARM 5.98 1-yr ARM 5.33

November 6, 2008
30-yr 6.20 15-yr 5.88 5-yr ARM 6.19 1-yr ARM 5.25

October 30, 2008
30-yr 6.46 15-yr 6.19 5-yr ARM 6.36 1-yr ARM 5.38

October 23, 2008
30-yr 6.04 15-yr 5.72 5-yr ARM 6.06 1-yr ARM 5.23

Moving on lets translate mortgage rates into a the mortgage payments one would pay on a 200k loan. We translated today's rates as well as the rates from 3 weeks ago.

November 20th
30-yr $1204.24
15-yr $1658.67
5-yr ARM $1182.43
1-yr ARM $1109.36

October 30th
30-yr 1258.87
15-yr 1708.31
5-yr ARM 1245.77
1-yr ARM 1120.56

As we can see since October 30th the potential payment on a 30 year, 15 year and 5 year has come down quite a bit. The 1 year arm has remained relatively stable for the last few weeks. The 5 year rate is still probably the most unattractive mortgage product right now. Payments on the 5 year arm are pretty similar to the payments on a 30 year loan. Considering it's hard to know where rates will be in 5 year it's probably not worth to get a 5 year arm considering the small savings it currently offers.

The other thing we are seeing in the mortgage markets is that banks are still very reticent to give out loans. Zero down and no doc loans are pretty much dead. Because of the disappearance of no doc loans it has become harder for people that are self employed to get loans. Since so many potential borrowers have been pushed out of the market potential borrowers with 1031 jobs and money for down payments have very little competition for properties.

So what is going to happen moving forward. It's hard to know what is going to happen with the economy in general. Although mortgage rates have been relatively stable recently if Obama makes any huge initiates in the housing market it could push mortgage rates pretty far in one direction or another. I expect that 30 year mortgage rates will stay above 5.8 until the end of the year simply because I don't expect to see many major policy changes until Obama takes office.

Ki writes about trends with mortgage rates. His website provides a mortgage calculator widget and a tool that graphs mortgage interest rates

The Fed cut the fed funds rate at the end of October. The rate was dropped from 1.5% to 1%. This is the lowest the rate has been since 2003. Following the cut we saw drops in all the major mortgage products. The 30 year dropped from 6.46 to 6.2. The largest drop was in the 15 year mortgage which fell from 6.19 to 5.88 a drop of .31 points. 5 year arms and 1 years also fell .17 and .13 respectively. Below are mortgage rates for the last several weeks.

November 6, 2008
30-yr 6.20 15-yr 5.88 5-yr ARM 6.19 1-yr ARM 5.25

October 30, 2008
30-yr 6.46 15-yr 6.19 5-yr ARM 6.36 1-yr ARM 5.38

October 23, 2008
30-yr 6.04 15-yr 5.72 5-yr ARM 6.06 1-yr ARM 5.23

October 16, 2008
30-yr 6.46 15-yr 6.14 5-yr ARM 6.14 1-yr ARM 5.16

As we can see from the numbers rates have been moving back and forth over the last few weeks pushed around by different bits of economic news coming out. And this week of course by the recent cuts by the fed. Let's look at what a mortgage would be this week on a 200k loan based on current rates. We also looked at what the mortgage would be for a 200k loan based on last weeks rates.

November 6th
30-yr $1224.92
15-yr $1674.77
5-yr ARM $1223.64
1-yr ARM $1104.40

October 30th
30-yr 1258.87
15-yr 1708.31
5-yr ARM 1245.77
1-yr ARM 1120.56

So first off my advice would be to avoid the 5 year arm. Since the mortgage is so close to what you would be paying on a 30 year fixed mortgage their is almost no reason to consider a 5 year arm. I would also probably avoid a 1 year arm. With mortgage rates acting so wildly its pretty likely rates could be much higher a year from now. If you get a 30 year fixed and rates drop substantially you can also refinance at the new lower rate. If you get a 1 year arm and rates increase there is not much you can do but simply make higher payments.

So what is going to happen moving forward. I have heard some speculation that rates are going to increase this month. I don't know if rates will be higher a month from now but I think rates will continue to see the atypical large weekly fluctuations we have seen the last few weeks.

There has also been some speculation that the fed will raise rates if the market starts to improve. I don't think this is a foregone conclusion. If the economy starts to improve I don't think the government will move quickly to raise rates. Basically the financial crisis has been so severe that if we start to move beyond it politicians will be worried of raising rates too quickly will botch a potential recovery. Or if the recovery fails for other reasons they will be blamed anyway. Therefore I think priority number 1 over the next year will remain the real estate and mortgage markets and that translates to keeping the fed rate low. Of course keeping the fed rate low does not guarantee that mortgage rates will stay low.

Ki is a realtor in Austin Texas. He writes regularly about mortgage interest rates. His site offers free mortgage calculator html for webmasters and a widget that shows current mortgage rates

This marks the third week in a row that mortgage rates have moved in one direction or another by more than .4 points. This is highly unusual. For some perspective for the 12 weeks from March 20th to June 5 mortgage rates held steady between 5.85 and 6.09. At this point mortgage rates are highly highly volatile. Here are mortgage interest rates for the last 4 weeks.

October 30, 2008
30-yr 6.46 15-yr 6.19 5-yr ARM 6.36 1-yr ARM 5.38

October 23, 2008
30-yr 6.04 15-yr 5.72 5-yr ARM 6.06 1-yr ARM 5.23

October 16, 2008
30-yr 6.46 15-yr 6.14 5-yr ARM 6.14 1-yr ARM 5.16

October 9, 2008
30-yr 5.94 15-yr 5.63 5-yr ARM 5.90 1-yr ARM 5.15

October 2, 2008
30-yr 6.10 15-yr 5.78 5-yr ARM 6.00 1-yr ARM 5.12

30 Year rates have been a little more volatile than the 15 year fixed and 5 year arm products. The one mortgage product that stands out is the 1 Year ARM. It has for the most part been steadily rising over the last few weeks.

So what is going on with mortgage rates? Basically there are a number of strong forces pushing around mortgage rates like a wild hurricane. Over the last few weeks we have seen similar erratic swings with the stock market with both historic rises and drops happening several times in the last week. Add to the uncertainty in the economy with massive government bailout programs (the Fannie Mae takeover and the 700 billion bailout) we can begin to see that the erratic movement in mortgage rates is simply a reflection of a highly erratic time period in the general economy.

Ok let's look at what your payment would be on a 200k mortgage. Using our mortgage calculator we ran the numbers based on today's mortgage rates. We also ran the numbers based on mortgage rates from last week.

October 30th
30-yr 1258.87
15-yr 1708.31
5-yr ARM 1245.77
1-yr ARM 1120.56

October 23rd
30-yr 1204.24
15-yr 1657.60
5-yr ARM 1206.82
1-yr ARM 1101.93

It's hard to tell what rates are going to do moving forward. But it looks like rates will continue to remain volatile. What we are seeing is basically a tug of war between the government and the economy. The government is doing whatever it can to push down rates through takeovers, bailouts and lowering the fed rate. Negative factors that come up in the economy tend to push rates up because it causes banks to not want to lend out money. I think we will continue to see this tug of war for the next few weeks. Add a presidential election throw in for good measure and I expect to see mortgage rate volatility to continue. That said overall I expect mortgage rates to go down over the next month. The government shows no signs of letting up and I think they will win the tug of war in the long term.

What recommendations do I have for people looking for a loan? I hate recommending arms. If people are looking at the buying for a long term (single family home owners) I would advise to avoid arms. If investors are planning on being in a property for a short period of time and have the cash reserves to deal with random changes in mortgage payments the 1 year is attractive because the difference between 30 year and 1 year arms is greater than what we typically see.

Ki lives in Austin are writes about trends with mortgage rates. His site provides a free mortgage calculator and a graph of historical mortgage interest rates.

Recently the news has been dominated by developments with the 700 billion dollar bailout package, and rightfully so. 700 billion is an astronomical sum of money. The first problem is that the 700 billion dollar bailout adds a huge amount of money to the national debt. Not only that, some have hinted that the bailout is so large it could actually lower the US Credit Rating. The second problem is just as serious. There is no guarantee that the bailout will work.

The idea behind the bailout is that by taking on billions of dollars of toxic loans the government hopes to "influence" banks to start lending again. The past attempts of the government to "influence" banks have all failed. The fed lowered the fed rate to influence banks to lower mortgage rates. While the banks were appreciative of lower rates they did not lower mortgage interest rates. In fact after the fed cut rates the banks increased mortgage rates because they saw negative prospects in the housing market. In a similar way, after the US government takes over the toxic loans away from them the banks could continue to see negative prospects in the housing market and therefore would continue to have strict lending practices. The idea of spending 700 billion with no guarantees seems like a poor use of capitol.

When people hear the word "National Bank" the first thoughts are of a socialized banking system. A national bank would not replace the current banking industry. It also does not "introduce" government involvement into the banking industry. With the Fed influencing interest rates and the government rushing in to bailout every bank that runs into problems the government already has a large hand in the banking industry. I don't want to argue whether the government should have a role in the banking industry. Currently the government already has a significant role in the banking/mortgage industry. My argument is that if the government does have a role it should be effective and cost efficient.

A national bank would be a cheaper and more cost effective way to steady the financial markets. To understand how a national bank would work lets first talk a little more about what is currently causing the housing crisis. The mortgage market operates a little like a basketball game. Lenders go from one extreme to another. For awhile lenders will lend to anyone that walks in the door with a pulse. During these periods lenders accept less and less qualified applicants in an attempt to gain market share. Then the lenders get freaked out (often because someone realizes they have been giving out billions in loans to unqualified applicants that are unlikely to pay their mortgages) and lenders run to the other extreme and practice extremely restrictive lending practices (the insurance industry sees the same cycles but that is another topic). If you haven't already guessed currently we are in the second scenario with lenders practicing extremely restrictive lending practices. The problem with the second situation is that such extreme changes shocks the housing market and basically causes a financial crisis. The banks are in a catch 22. If collectively the banks don't lend the housing market will continue to deteriorate. But no one wants to lend because they are worried the housing market will continue to deteriorate because collectively they are not lending. It's kind of like at a party where you don't want to be the first person to jump into the pool because if no one else does you look foolish. Substitute looking foolish with going bankrupt and you kind of see where banks are coming from.

The great depression and the S&L crisis were both basically examples of this same problem. Initially during the great depression the conventional logic was the government should not intervene. As the stock market continued to drop (it dropped over 80% in less than a year) and people realized how bad an economy can get (pretty bad) the idea of government intervention seemed more palatable compared to the alternative.

So now during periods where lenders are freaked the government attempts to "influence" lenders. The problem is its extremely expensive. Currently the government is taking on years and years of bad loans in an attempt to "influence" lenders to loosen their current restrictive lending practices for the next 6 months to pull us out of the housing crisis. This is kind of like trying to influence your local school to spend money on new textbooks by building them a new school. Not only is it ridiculously expensive after you build the new school you have no guarantee they will buy the textbooks. It's not simply a poor use of government funds it's utterly outlandish.

So how would a national bank operate? During periods where banks are giving out loans to everyone that walked in the door the national bank would practice have average lending restrictions with interest rates slightly higher than what is available at most banks and give out very few loans. When the banks became ultra restrictive the bank would again have average lending restrictions. During these periods it would give out more loans.

So the government would not practice the outlandish lending practices we saw during the boom they would not be as restrictive as the banks are now. In fact this would probably do more to influence banks lending practices than the 700 billion giveaway. Remember how we talked about banks not wanting to lend money because no one else was lending money therefore making them nervous about the prospects of the housing market. Knowing that money would always flow provides some stability to the market. Also it would be much less expensive. Having the government provide some loans over the next 6 months with average restrictions during a low point in the market would be much better than taking on years of crappy loans given out during the peak of the market to very unqualified home buyers.

Would some banks go under? Yes. But you know what they should. Bailing out foolish banks that threw caution to the wind and had wildly risky lending practices almost guarantees that we will be faced with another housing crisis in the future. Instead we should allow some of these banks to die. First it prevents these banks without a sense of risk from causing these problems again. Secondly, it influences other banks to exercise more caution during boom times. The bailout sends a message to banks that during the boom they should ignore caution because the government will come in and take all their bad loans away like some kind of bizarre magical bad loan tooth fairy.

I realize this article might bother people that want the government to have no role in the banking/mortgage market. But if we accept that the government already has a role in the banking industry (the possibility of the government taking itself out is pretty much nill for the next decade) to stabilize markets at the least it should do so in a way that is effective and cost efficient.

Escapeso Realty is a small company in central Texas. Their site has up to date information on the Austin real estate market. It also has a search of the Austin MLS for visitors and a tool that tracks mortgage interest rates.

The general arguments concerning the bailout have gone something along the lines of

"The taxpayers should not have to foot a 700 billion dollar bill to bail out Wall Street"

"But if taxpayers do not bail out Wall Street the economy will fall apart and those same taxpayers will be hurt"

If we could be sure the bailout would work the second argument has some merit. While the bailout will certainly help the banks, the problem is we have almost no guarantee the bailout will help the real estate market and the general economy.

First let's look at some recent history of how the Fed has tried to help the troubled real estate market. The Fed usually attempts to lower mortgage interest rates to help the real estate market. By lower mortgage rates houses become more attractive. In addition, with lower mortgage rates home buyers can buy more expensive houses with the same monthly payment. Therefore lower rates can help stop falling prices. So it was not surprising in early 2008 the Fed cut the Fed rate. In normal markets lowering the Fed rate helps banks and causes them to lower mortgage interest rates. And after the fed cuts mortgage rates for a period of time dropped to 5.50. If they had stayed down there we might have averted some of the problems with the current housing crisis. But instead a few weeks later rates had jumped backed up to 6.2. Basically banks said thanks for the lower fed rates but we are not going to alter our rates. In fact, over the next few months mortgage rates rose all the way to 6.6. The next big move was acquiring Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. This was one of the largest government takeovers in US history. The move was risky because the government was providing insurance for trillions in loans. And it initially had a positive effect on the housing market. But a few weeks later AIG ran into financial problems. It was almost as if the government takeover of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae never happened.

So the previous moves the federal government has made to stop the financial crisis have not worked. Should the 700 billion dollar bailout be different? It could certainly help the markets. But it might not. Lets look at why.

One of the benefits of the 700 billion dollar bailout has nothing to do with banks. It has more to do with perception on Main Street. The hope is that the bailout will restore confidence in the real estate market on Main Street.

In politics people often talk about news cycles covering up the last news cycle. Basically the last piece of news stays in people's minds until the next piece of news comes along. The Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac news cycle (and the billions the government will spend on it) only lasted until the next piece of news, which was about a week. While the 700 billion dollar bailout should restore some confidence into the real estate market, that confidence might only last until the next piece of news. And with things happening so quickly that news cycle might not last very long and given the current market the next piece of new is likely to be negative.

The other benefit of the 700 billion dollar bailout is that the government is hoping to influence banks to start lending again. The idea is that by taking billions in toxic loans off the books for banks they will start lending again. The problem is that their is no guarantee this will happen. In fact when the fed lowered rates banks said thanks but decided that prospects for the housing market looked negative and continued to add restrictions to lending. In a similar fashion banks could say thanks for the 700 billion but we continue to see negative prospects in the housing market and therefore we will continue to have strict lending practices. But thanks for the 700 billion taxpayers.

Escapeso real estate is a small brokerage in Austin Texas. Their realtors works with clients looking for Austin real estate. Their site offers a free search of the Austin MLS along with current mortgage interest rates.

Mortgage Interest Rates Mortgage Rates Widget

If you have been hoping interest rates would drop your prayers have been answered. Interest rates plummeted over half a point last week falling from 6.35 to 5.78. The last time mortgage interest rates fell this fast this quickly was the beginning of 1995 when rates fell from 8.32 to 7.57. Rates have basically fallen following the government takeover of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Below are the rates for the major mortgage products for the last few weeks.

September 18, 2008
30-yr 5.78 15-yr 5.35 5-yr ARM 5.67 1-yr ARM 5.03

September 11, 2008
30-yr 5.93 15-yr 5.54 5-yr ARM 5.87 1-yr ARM 5.21

September 4, 2008
30-yr 6.35 15-yr 5.90 5-yr ARM 5.97 1-yr ARM 5.15

30 Year mortgage rates fell less this week (.15 points) compared to last week (.42 points). 15 year and 5 year arms both fell about .2 points this week. 1 Year arms which was the only major product to not fall last week fell .18 points this week. The other interesting point is that because interest rates were falling before the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac takeover (based on rumors of the takeover) rates have fallen an incredible amount (.74 points for 30 year rates) over the last month and a half.

Ok so let's see what these drops mean as far as a mortgage payment. Using our mortgage calculator widget lets look at a payment based on a 200k loan. We will run the numbers based on today's mortgage rates and rates on September 11, September 4th and July 24th.

September 18th
30-yr $1170.96
15-yr $1618.29
5-yr ARM $1157
1-yr ARM $1077.31


September 11th
30-yr $1190.11
15-yr $1638.41
5-yr ARM $1182.43
1-yr ARM $1099.45

September 4th
30-yr $1244.47
15-yr $1676.92
5-yr ARM $1195.24
1-yr ARM $1092.05

July 24th
30-yr $1281.28
15-yr $1707.22
5-yr ARM $1219.75
1-yr ARM $1134.32

So the obvious thing to see here is that the now lower interest rates have had a large effect on mortgage payments. A mortgage with a 30 year interest rate dropped from 1281.28 to 1170.96 (9.1 percent) in the last month and a half. So that brings up the point that it's probably a good point to start looking at refinancing your mortgage even if you received a mortgage somewhat recently.

So what is in store for the market in the next few weeks? It's hard to tell but the market is very volatile. One day the stock market drops 400 points because Lehman Brothers goes bankrupt. Then the government proposes to takeover the bad mortgage debt and the market rises. Because of this volatility if you are thinking of refinancing I might lock in to an interest rate now because its hard to know what rates are going to be like in a few weeks.

Ki is a realtor down in Austin Texas. His website provides a search of the Austin MLS along with information on Austin Commercial Real Estate.