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Bluff Me and I'll Bluff You Back ...

Dec. 18, 2006

As is clear from the title, I've got Digital Underground stuck in my head. Blame the Sirius Satellite Radio. In any event, I'm beginning today's post with the moral ... that way, just in case you don't read on, you still can enjoy the point.

MORAL: Just because it's a buyers' market doesn't mean sellers will give their homes away.

And now for the backstory ...

Last week I listed a home in Deerview, an older subdivision in Northwest Phoenix. We priced the home on the bleeding edge of the market, especially given the 12,000+ square-foot lot the home sits on and the excellent diving pool in the backyard. You see "priced to sell" on a lot of listings here in Phoenix these days, but this one truly was priced to move quickly.

We had a handful of showings the first few days (always a good feeling in a slower market) and on Thursday had the wife visit the home with her agent in the morning and the husband come through at night. By Friday I had an offer sitting on my fax machine - full price, less $7,000 to be applied to the buyers' closing costs.

Given the already-low list price, the sellers and I elected to counter by raising the price to incorporate some but not all of the closing costs.

Yesterday I receive a call telling me the buyers didn't like the counter offer. I said I'd check with my sellers, which I did, and their response was the counter is the counter. We're not budging. End of story. Unless ...

This morning I received a call from the buyers' agent. Upon further review, the runner was down by contact ... er ... the buyers decided the counter worked for them after all. I should have it waiting for me on my fax machine this evening.

Did the home's value jump over the last 20 hours? Of course not. But after looking at other homes in the same price range in this same area, the buyers discovered what we already knew: this was a hard-to-beat value.

Many buyers believe homes are there for the taking at any price. While I've got no issue with writing a lowball offer (it's hard to recommend offering full price, after all) the time also comes to take a second look and see where the home is priced. Though the vast majority of sellers want to sell, only a small minority are willing to do so thousands below current market value.

And so the moral of the story ... well, you know that already.

(c) Jonathan Dalton, 2006 / Jonathan Dalton's Arizona Homes

Does Your Agent Go All In?

Sep. 14, 2006
Tagged with: buyers, negotiating, poker, sellers

The provocative headline is solely for the benefit of my wife, as there's virtually no other way I would be able to get her to read this post. And since she loves me primarily for my writing, I need to keep her entertained.

I've been debating this topic for a while, not so much whether to write about it but how to write about it. The final catalyst was a conversation with a friend of mine regarding a non-real estate related matter ... I had used my negotiating skills to resolve a dispute. As she put it, "this is why you're such a good poker player."

Oh, if only I was. I wouldn't need real estate anymore and instead could head to Las Vegas and become a poker pro - or at the very least move my daytime "office" to Casino Arizona.

Still, while I'll never turn pro, some of the skills I use (or not use depending on the session) in poker have come in handy in real estate - keeping my composure, remaining neutral and negotiating.

Negotiating? Absolutely. A hand of poker is nothing more than a negotiation, albeit one between two or more parties all of whom have incomplete information. To make up for the lack of information, players rely on other signals - tells (unconscious mannerisms in certain circumstances) are the most commonly cited, but betting patterns are equally as, well, telling.

I'm not going to go into detail of something I have only cursory knowledge of, but suffice it to say there are some general rules poker betting follows. Likewise, there are some general patterns that appear in most real estate transactions.

The buyer will make an offer below list price, most often with the hopes that the seller will meet them in the middle. They are attempting to initiate a reaction based on their action. The same takes place at a poker table over and over again.

At the same time, both buyer and seller are making their decisions knowing only what they hold and what common cards they share. In real-estate terms, the buyer has his loan and his motivation, the seller has their price and their motivation, and the common cards could be viewed as the house.

Where a poker hand diverges significantly from a real-estate transaction is in most cases, win-win is an optimum situation in real estate. Both clients walk away happy - their goals have been achieved and they are moving on with their life with a smile on their face. There is no win-win in poker - even a chopped or shared pot is viewed more as lose-lose.

Poker players routinely deal with adversity - poor cards, recovery from unlucky situations. And likewise, a real-estate professional needs to deal with adversity in a calm manner. We don't have the luxury of going off the deep end if termites are found or an inspection repair request in longer than expected. We have a job to do ... and in many cases, we have the opportunity to alter the outcome through our actions.

I'm not suggesting you start your agent interviews at the local casino when you're buying or selling. Nor would I suggest you be concerned the commission earned is all being donated at an area poker table.

But it might be worth asking an agent you're thinking to sell your home whether they're willing to go "all in" and risk everything to make that sale happen. Better that than someone who will "fold" at the first sign of trouble. 

(c) Jonathan Dalton, 2006 / Jonathan Dalton's Arizona Homes

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