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Sep. 13, 2006 - Go West, Young Man!

Overheard in the parking lot before last night's Cirque de Soleil show at Glendale Arena: "This is why this whole thing is destined to fail."

The scenario: walking to the arena from the parking area and crossing over some dirt medians caused by the construction at the Westgate project. A resident of the East Valley (apparent from his disdain for having crossed Central Avenue for any reason) was complaining loudly about the admittedly cross-country trek to the arena.

The larger scenario: we were walking just east of Glendale Arena - a few hundred yards north of the new Cardinals Stadium, a few hundred yards south of Loews' new movie theater (a first in the Valley - the Loews portion, not the movie theater, just west of where the residential condos are being added and directly south of a building whose purpose I'm still working out.

Yep, Westgate clearly is a failure. Dork.

If you follow sports you've heard about the supposed East Coast bias in the media. If you don't follow sports, you probably can get the same experience watching presidential returns - we don't really matter much out here (see: Florida, New Mexico, 2000). In the Phoenix area, there's a severe East Valley bias because it was the East Valley that grew long before the West.

Times have changed, though not everyone in the streets (north-south roads on the east side of Central Avenue are Streets, those on the west are Avenues) seems to realize it.

With the Cardinals and the Fiesta Bowl having moved to Glendale, Tempe is left with the Insight Bowl. It's a cute bowl - I was there last year - but it's not the Fiesta Bowl. Gammage remains the primary location for full-scale Broadway productions, but if you drop one step, there's now a Broadway dinner theater in peoria to match the one in Mesa. The Coyotes left downtown for Glendale.

More and more, the places to be are either in downtown or the West Valley.

So, Westgate destined to fail? Um, probably not. For many, the time's come to take off the street-shaded sunglasses and see what has blossomed out west.

(c) Jonathan Dalton, 2006 / Jonathan Dalton's Arizona Homes

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Sep. 13, 2006 - re: Go West, Young Man!

Posted by Tracey Hunter
Dork indeed!  I went to a Cardinals game and was pleasantly surprised to find numerous FREE parking lots and FREE bus shuttles to the arena.  There was virutally no waiting to get onto a bus either.  As soon as one bus left another pulled up. Try going to a game in Denver.  If you're lucky you can pay $10 to park 6-8 blocks away and there is no such thing as a shuttle service.  You'll be hiking to the stadium.   Dork needs to realize Westgate is the perfect location for the sports complexes.  Phoenix has the advantage Denver did not and that is LAND and plenty of it.  The city of Phoenix does an excellent job of planning communities and I'm with you - Westgate's gonna be happening!           
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Sep. 13, 2006 - re: Go West, Young Man!

Posted by Bob Swadley
Ah, I will add some insight to the Dork comment, since I seem to feel these days that I was here before dirt, I remember when I lived in Scottsdale you know where that is it's the west most western town?. well anyway I used to sell real estate in that town but unfortunately all the buyers and sellers knew more than I did so I headed west (you know go west young man) well their really was a west side (I now know what Cristopher Columbus was trying to explain to the Queen it is round not flat and we wont fall off at the edge (since there isn't any) well life does exist west of Central avenue and although it has taken a little bit of time it will prevail as one of the glory spots in the state with all the new venues that are taking place, and yes I guess if I had to drive my mercedes all the way from Scottsdale to the west side I would be pissed off too but the good point is just a little bit further you can be in Beverly Hills (right at home) The good life.
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Oct. 7, 2006 - re: Go West, Young Man!

Posted by Jeff Brown
>Yep, Westgate clearly is a failure. Dork. In just one short Saturday afternoon you've become one of my A-List favorites. Thanks
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