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Carolyne L, Licensed Real Estate Broker

Date: June 12, Number of Replies: 19


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How do your forms work when you are out on the road? We always bought triplicate snap-sets carbonless pull-apart paper forms from our various board offices. Now everything is on line... print out every piece of paper that you use for any and all tasks.
So you are going on a listing or to meet with a buyer... all the agency forms you have printed out, dozens of them, each in three separate sets. Now you have to fill in all the information three times, or go back to carrying carbon paper. More nuisance than imaginable. What do you do? Just my thoughts.

In this process, I see a big opportunity for errors to occur... you need a copy for the salesperson, a copy for the office, a copy to leave with the buyers/sellers. Filling out three separate sheets for each activity takes more work and time, of course, and the danger of something going wrong or getting missed, as sometimes does happen --- what the --------- ? what do you do? Any bright ideas? am I missing something? totally possible - lol.

Carolyne
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Glory bee Costa Licensed Real Estate Agent,  St. Michaels,  MD

Date: June 12

How do your forms work when you are out on the road? We always bought triplicate snap-sets carbonless pull-apart paper forms from our various board offices. Now everything is on line... print out every piece of paper that you use for any and all tasks.
So you are going on a listing or to meet with a buyer... all the agency forms you have printed out, dozens of them, each in three separate sets. Now you have to fill in all the information three times, or go back to carrying carbon paper. More nuisance than imaginable. What do you do? Just my thoughts.

Carolyn
If it is a listing I print 2 copies one for the seller and one for me, back at the office I make a copy for my files and give the original to the broker. If its a contract I do the same thing or have them come to the office, I prefer to do contracts in the office, Last but not least Itake that darn laptop, and portable printer, which I hate. I use proforms which has our contracts and listing forms and you just fill in the blanks once and make your copies.

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Kelly Schrum Licensed Real Estate Agent

Date: June 12

How do your forms work when you are out on the road? We always bought triplicate snap-sets carbonless pull-apart paper forms from our various board offices. Now everything is on line... print out every piece of paper that you use for any and all tasks.
So you are going on a listing or to meet with a buyer... all the agency forms you have printed out, dozens of them, each in three separate sets. Now you have to fill in all the information three times, or go back to carrying carbon paper. More nuisance than imaginable. What do you do? Just my thoughts.

Everyone is going paperless. You just have to update your technology.

I have purchased a Tablet PC. and with this I can pre-load all the forms into my client folder and making sure all the legal forms are pre filled with any information that is repeated consistantly (like; my information, county, etc. ), Preparation is the key before you go out. Then while you are out, complete the forms on your tablet and have them sign with a Docusign or acutally on the tablet its self. When its done you can email to everyone involved, even your client. If you are wireless, or have a phone that is a modem, then you can email it to everyone while in front of the client and that way you know it is locked with all the information in front of their view.

In most cases you will not need to print a copy unless you need a hard copy in your own files. When this is complete I copy the total client file including emails and photos onto a cd and file that away. No more paper files to deal with.

It is easy and secure. Try it.

Kelly Schrum

Integrity West Real Estate

623-889-1009

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Gary Rossignol Licensed Real Estate Agent,  West Chester,  OH

Date: June 12

I use Excel Heavyweight carbonless 2 part reverse by Glatfelter. My broker buys it somewhere and I buy from them. $10.00 for 250 sets. I think you can Google it on the internet.
I put it into my lazar printer, copy every page twice and it gives me a carbonless document of my choice. Top copy white, the bottom copy canary.
I can go on line and fill out my contracts, listing as well as purchase, print them out. When I meet with my client, they sign the top copy, they keep the canary copy and when I get back to the office I scan the original, make copies or PDF it and forward to whom ever in an email or file it on my computer.
I can print out blank contracts either listing or purchase. Then fill in the blanks with my client. They sign and keep the canary copy and I can make additional copies, or PDF it and email to where ever is needed.
It is very clean and simple. It is much better than filling in the blanks on at least 2 contracts or not leaving a copy for your client. That is not a good practice to get into. I know agents are doing that. Not me. I make a point to leave a copy of everything my clients sign...every time.
Sincerely,
Gary Rossignol, ABR, CRS, e-PRO, GRI, SRS,
Senior Housing Specialist™
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Cincinnati, Ohio
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Judy Davis Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Dayton,  OH

Date: June 12

Carbon paper?

I use PDFs and a photo copier. When we meet at the office I give my client a photo copy of all documents. When I write an offer, I efax or scan and email it to the listing agent and prefer to receive offers that way. When we have an accepted offer I email a copy to my client's loan officer. When I go on a listing appointment I fill out the forms with type writer on PDFs and print two copies. When I return to the office, I scan all the executed documents, save them as a PDF in my folder for that listing and email copies to my client. I don't make hard copies until I turn in the closing.

I keep a folder for each sale and listing. The listing folder includes all photos, flyers, CMAs, listing docs and sale docs. The sale folder includes, a record of properties shown, contracts, property disclosures, inspection reports, VA/FHA Amendatory Clause copies and HUD statements.

I backup my c drive to an external hard drive and to Carbonite.com.

If photo copies and PDF's are not legal in your state work on your legislature or real estate commission to make them legal. They make life and long distance transactions less expensive and easier.

Then there is always a tablet PC and wireless card.

Judy

Judy Davis, Realtor®

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Creative Real Estate Counseling

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Carolyne L Licensed Real Estate Broker

Date: June 13

Hi Gary,

Carbonless paper has a film on it. Does that not gum up your printer eventually? while passing through the innards of the machine?
I prefer to meet people in the office also, but mostly that is just not possible, especially when taking a listing. Not the least of which we are not permitted to list a house that we have not physically been in. And, then of, course the house has to be measured. Some agents are beginning to state on the listing that it is up to the buyer to measure. Interesting thought.
Yes, I too pre-fill in as much as possible. I have lost count of exactly how many pieces of paper require signatures, but there is surely an abundance of them, not just the contract. We have disclosure forms of all sorts and varieties, and disclaimers and waivers, amendments, and several others. When a file is complete when it is sold there is well over a hundred pieces of paper in each file.
I don't see us going paperless for a very long time. I have a laptop and a wireless printer. It is interesting that often after a thunderstorm the wireless system (linksys) codes have to be reset. Try doing that while out on the road. I discovered this quite by accident and didn't know what was going on the first time I tried to use the laptop on the road with the wireless printer.
But my big beef is carrying all the excess luggage and the weight (I feel like I need a mule train) ... trudging through the snow, or even in the rain - packing up at the client's house and lugging it all back to the car again.

I am thinking of investing in "go to meeting" so a replica of the desktop activates on the laptop. Or I may have to invest in a mule to help with the lifting - lol
Ah for the good old days. I miss the "book." As we approach 70, 80, and beyond and wish to keep on working, the physical struggle of carrying all the accoutrements I can see will be a problem for many people.
Carolyne
Serving Burlington and Brampton ON CA
A licenced REALTOR (R) for 29 years.
(even so we are not allowed to call ourselves agents anymore - old terminology dies hard). Maybe I should buy: IWantToBeYourRegistrant ?
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I use Excel Heavyweight carbonless 2 part reverse by Glatfelter. My broker buys it somewhere and I buy from them. $10.00 for 250 sets. I think you can Google it on the internet.
I put it into my lazar printer, copy every page twice and it gives me a carbonless document of my choice. Top copy white, the bottom copy canary.
I can go on line and fill out my contracts, listing as well as purchase, print them out. When I meet with my client, they sign the top copy, they keep the canary copy and when I get back to the office I scan the original, make copies or PDF it and forward to whom ever in an email or file it on my computer.
I can print out blank contracts either listing or purchase. Then fill in the blanks with my client. They sign and keep the canary copy and I can make additional copies, or PDF it and email to where ever is needed.
It is very clean and simple. It is much better than filling in the blanks on at least 2 contracts or not leaving a copy for your client. That is not a good practice to get into. I know agents are doing that. Not me. I make a point to leave a copy of everything my clients sign...every time.
Sincerely,
Gary Rossignol, ABR, CRS, e-PRO, GRI, SRS,
Senior Housing Specialist™
GROUP REALTORS We Make It Happen!
Cincinnati, Ohio
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Peter Kutemeyer Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Bethesda,  MD

Date: June 13

Carolyne:

Use a laptop with a portable printer. The portable printers are very
compact now.

Peter

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Mark Jay Information Technology,  Brookfield,  WI

Date: June 13

Carolyne asks:

How do your forms work when you are out on the road?

We always bought triplicate snap-sets carbonless pull-apart paper forms from our various board offices. Now everything is on line... print out every piece of paper that you use for any and all tasks.

So you are going on a listing or to meet with a buyer... all the agency forms you have printed out, dozens of them, each in three separate sets. Now you have to fill in all the information three times, or go back to carrying carbon paper. More nuisance than imaginable. What do you do? Just my thoughts.


…what do you do? Any bright ideas? am I missing something? totally possible - lol.


Mark Jay responds:

Yes, you ARE missing something… the technology to do the job…. Laptops are cheap. As little as $350. Here's an example… http://www.laptopcloseout.com/usa/store.html?target=../../

Portable printers are also inexpensive…. How about $140 Here's an example…. http://www.ecomelectronics.com/prodinfo.phtml?id=3898&ref=pricegrabber .

You can plug your stuff into any electrical outlet but what if there's no power at the property you're showing or you're in your car? You'll need a power inverter for your vehicle. You'll need a device that you can plug into your vehicle's cigarette lighter that will convert your vehicle's 12 volt power to 110 so you can plug in… Here's an example… http://www.theinverterstore.com/?gclid=COXEqsWvh5sCFQa-sgodZ2DnoA The cost should be around $150.

The power inverter is the "trickiest" part of the solution because you need one powerful enough to drive your devices but not so powerful… and expensive… as to blow a car fuse. Find a local store… like Best Buy… that has a collection of inverters to choose from and then buy one, try it out and if it doesn't work then exchange it for another that is more powerful.

Lastly, you'll need an "air card" a device… really a cell phone in the form factor of a PCIMCA card or USB device… that will wirelessly connect you to the internet so you can access your forms, MLS and your data base online. Here's the Verizon offering… http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneOverviewByDevice&deviceType=BroadbandAccess%20Devices The hardware will cost as little as $30 and the monthly charge will be about $60 if you have a Verizon cell phone already and a little more if you don't. As an aside… the Verizon wireless 3G network is so strong and fast that I only accesses the internet with a wireless card. I got rid of my cable connection YEARS ago.

So there you have it… "What you're missing". You'll spend about $500 or so and then around $60 per month or so and you'll be completely wireless and portable. It's the only way to go!

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Benita Griffin,  Seneca,  SC

Date: June 13

If I have met them outside my office, I just take the original back with me, make the necessary copies and get them a copy asap.

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Catherine Myers Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Walnut Creek,  CA

Date: June 13

I can't remember the last time I did a carbon agreement. I am almost all paperless. I will do a couple things. One, I do docusign for much of my business now. Even while with a client I can fill out the document online and then turn the computer to them for them to sign securely right online - someday I'll get a tablet, but for now docusign signatures are considered appropriate and it saves time and paper. Once they sign right there, I can just send the pdf straight to their email.

Then, with established clients, for offers and even listing agreements, I just do it all online from my home or office, they sign from their home or office and we're done. Again, they get a pdf sent to their email right away. If they were to request a paper copy I would oblige of course, but its been months that someone requested a paper copy. At the end of the transaction I get a CD burned with all the transaction documents, so they then have everything.

If someone doesn't have the technology for whatever reason, I will do what others have said. Print a copy of what they'll be signing. Have them sign one copy, leave the other, then again, PDF them the executed document as soon as I'm back to my scanner at home or office. I haven't had a client in a long time without a computer.

My must haves: Docusign, Full Adobe program, Scanner, Ufax. Those are THE #1 tools for my business today.

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