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jim downs, Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Langhorne,  PA

Date: April 26, Number of Replies: 21


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Need your help in developing a response to a reoccurring issue concerning pricing a home: Pricing that reflects the market value not what the seller thinks the home is worth.
Jim Downs
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Date: April 26

Jim Downs asked:

Need your help in developing a response to a reoccurring issue concerning pricing a home: Pricing that reflects the market value not what the seller thinks the home is worth.

Andi responds:

Just learned something from Larry Kendall at the Realtor Rally in Denver. Add one more line to your Seller Net Proceeds sheet:

Monthly carrying costs: To include mortgage payment, utilities, HOA fees etc etc

And multiply that answer by how many months you think it will take to sell at the price suggested by the Seller.

I used it on existing listings and got 2 immediate, substantial, price reductions.

Mack and Andi Durbin, Brokers
Rooftop Realty
Serving Metro Denver since 1976
303-881-8844
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Visit our blog at www.rooftopviews.com
30 years of doing whatever it takes

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Don Fabrizio-Garcia Licensed Real Estate Agent,  New Fairfield,  CT

Date: April 27

Need your help in developing a response to a reoccurring issue concerning pricing a home: Pricing that reflects the market value not what the seller thinks the home is worth.
Jim Downs

Tell them:
I don't control the market or your home's value. Rather, I evaluate the market, including recent sales, active competitive listings and also those homes that did not sell, and then utilize this data to extrapolate where in the market your home lies.

The market determines your home's value.

Don Fabrizio-Garcia
Danbury, Connecticut

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Kay Bailey Licensed Real Estate Agent

Date: April 27

Within my Comparative Market Analysis, I provide a range not to exceed 5% either way of what my professional price opinion of the home on that day at that time. If the Seller thinks his home should be priced higher than that, I advise them to hold it off the market until appreciation can cover their price. I remind the Sellers, where they price their home determines how long it will stay on the market and the last thing they want is to be tagged "the overpriced listing". At that point, no one remembers what the price was or is now, just that it was overpriced so reductions don't mean a thing. I build in automatic price reduction dates into the listing agreement with any seller that wants to list higher than 5% of my opinion to begin in as little as 2 wks. if there are no showings in a full blown marketing campaign.

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Lynn Wilber Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Naples,  FL

Date: April 28

"Need your help in developing a response to a reoccurring issue concerning pricing a home: Pricing that reflects the market value not what the seller thinks the home is worth.

Jim Downs"

I have turned down more listings in the last year than I can ever remember turning down. I tell the Sellers that we are in a price driven market and the market is what the market is, I can't change it. I also tell them if they really do not have to sell, they should wait to put their home on the market when the market catches up to their price. I tell them that I'd rather be upfront with them now, than have them disappointed in me later. Interestingly enough, I have not seen any of these listings I've turned down, list with another agent.

Cordially,

Lynn H. Wilber, GRI, e-PRO®

Broker - Associate

Downing Frye Realty, Inc. - Naples, FL

Office: (239) 594-2780

Fax: (239) 594-2781

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P.S. Do you know anyone who needs real estate advice? Please feel free to E-mail me their contact information at Lynn@NaplesBuys.com and I will be happy to help them.

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Daina Burness,  Burbank,  CA

Date: April 28

I always use the phrase "numbers don't lie". They don't have feelings and they are what they are. Then I back it up with showing recent sales and their corresponding Days on Market. It is a real eye opener.

I wish some agents would not take an over-priced listing. I had one recently that is about $100,000 over market value. I called to ask how she came at her number and she told me that he bought it for $XXX,XXX and that there was another active (on the market for over 100 days) that was listed at $XXX,XXX. I told her when I run sold comps I can't even get close and although my clients love the property we are concerned that it would not appraise. I then had an appraiser run his own numbers and he was even lower than mine! My clients still wanted to write on the property so I went through a lot of work to provide a spreadsheet with the adjustments and sent a letter saying that we did not want to be insulting however this is the reality. Obviously I said it nicer but I wish they had not even listed it.

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Date: April 28

It is very difficult to get sellers to come to the realizing that the market is going to affect "their home." It seems to be okay for their neighbor to lose $100K on their home but they don't think it will happen to them. I feel like it is a gentle process with my clients and sometimes we are in a losing battle because it keeps the price always one step behind because it takes so long to get them to the right price. When I go to the listing appt I always talk about the reality of pricing and they agree but when it actually comes down to lowering the home $50K it is just like pulling teeth.

Any ideas for keeping clients mentally ready for the almost weekly price reductions that must take place?

Thanks for the thoughts,

Tauni

Tauni Affinito

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Date: April 29

I agree with you. My area of sales is a very rural area, where most properties are passed down to a family member rather than being listed. However, it only takes one seller who believes his house is worth more than it is to cause the neighborhood to be flooded with over-priced homes. My buyers are very aware of what houses are worth in this area, and they have stepped back from looking here because they refuse to pay the price.
Unfortunately, sellers are also influenced by friends and family who tell them their house is worth more, or advise them to price it high so they have room to negotiate when a buyer tries to "low-ball" them. Then they want to know why their house isn't selling!
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Jim Cummings Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Austin,  TX

Date: April 29

Tauni Affinito says:

It is very difficult to get sellers to come to the realizing that the market is going to affect "their home." It seems to be okay for their neighbor to lose $100K on their home but they don't think it will happen to them. I feel like it is a gentle process with my clients and sometimes we are in a losing battle because it keeps the price always one step behind because it takes so long to get them to the right price. When I go to the listing appt I always talk about the reality of pricing and they agree but when it actually comes down to lowering the home $50K it is just like pulling teeth. Any ideas for keeping clients mentally ready for the almost weekly price reductions that must take place?
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Tauni
 
I would suggest NOT making weekly price reductions. Save them up and make one VERY DRAMATIC price reduction that will attract attention and get you ahead of the market. This should have the effect of creating quite a bit of interest.

JIM
The Jim Cummings Team
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Judy Tixier, ABR, GRI, 512-415-1083
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AVALAR Austin On Bee Caves, Austin, TX 78746
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http://www.AustinTxMls.commailto:Jim@AustinTxMls.com

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Elyse Berman, pa Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Boca Raton,  FL

Date: April 29

It is very difficult to get sellers to come to the realizing that the market is going to affect "their home." It seems to be okay for their neighbor to lose $100K on their home but they don't think it will happen to them. I feel like it is a gentle process with my clients and sometimes we are in a losing battle because it keeps the price always one step behind because it takes so long to get them to the right price. When I go to the listing appt I always talk about the reality of pricing and they agree but when it actually comes down to lowering the home $50K it is just like pulling teeth.

Any ideas for keeping clients mentally ready for the almost weekly price reductions that must take place?

Thanks for the thoughts,

Tauni

Hi Tauni,
 
I think we're in similar markets. I'm in south Florida and dealing with this same situation. I don't have the answer, but we were just talking today how the news talks about the high inventory of homes we have. A large part of the problem is the sellers you speak of who refuse to price their homes where the market demands they price them. The inventory is high because it's almost like dead inventory when you have sellers who refuse to cooperate. Either they want to sell or they don't. Twice in the last month, I've had sellers play hard ball with my buyers in this market. It's crazy. We're in a price-driven market in south Florida. This isn't the time for sellers to play hard ball.
 
As for getting the sellers mentally ready for price reductions, I wish I had the answer. Nobody likes to lose money. If someone comes up with it, I'd like to hear it as well.
 
Best,
Elyse
 
 
Elyse Berman, P.A., e-Pro
Realty Associates Florida Properties
9174 Glades Road
Boca Raton, Fl 33434
Cell: 561.716.7824
Fax: 561.451.9377
 
 
 
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