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Maha Kapageridis Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Upper Montclair,  NJ

Date: April 29

I don't know if this will work or not - here's the scenario - I get a call from an owner that wants me to list his home. Great I said blah blah blah I get more info on his home and go and meet with him. In toe with what the range of his home price should be - it's a 4br 1.1 bath - although clean - no updates - kitchen is very outdated, bathrooms - my range $369-$379k - his thinking $550k! why does he think this because I sold a home around corner from him for $580k that's why he called me. No comparison obviously brand new const. 5br/4ba gorgeous... I didn't have the heart to tell him that night my thoughts - and pretty much to myself I figured let me double check my figures! anyway - 2nd meeting - he was very annoyed at me when I did give him my numbers becuase he had people in the range of low 420s-430s and even one that had it for 510k - guy is a statistician so I'm not going to beat him at his own game - so I said to him - I will send you similar homes in your neighborhood that are active, under contract and solds (makings of a CMA) - and told him to have at it - #s don't lie. Told him to wait if he wants to sell at higher price - told him other realtors giving you those #'s are doing you a disservice just to get business... I don't understand who would do that purposely - I did that when I was a newbie for sheer lack of knowledge!

Maha

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Allan Lindahl Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Hutchinson,  MN

Date: April 30

I find it helpful to share the feedback forms received from showing agents. The feedback request forms are sent via email following each showing and include five basic questions, one regarding list price. When a property is priced on the high side, the showing agents generally comment (to high, over market value, etc.). The seller can see the actual feedback which helps the seller recognize what the buyers and showing agents think.

Allan Lindahl

CBR, CRS, e-PRO, RealtorĀ®

Coldwell Banker Burnet

Phone: (320) 587-7969

Fax: (320) 587-0269

Homes@LindahlRealtors.com

LindahlRealtors.com

Making Dreams Come HomeSM

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Date: April 30

In today's real estate market, both buyers and sellers have reason to be a little confused, hopeful as well as negative about selling or buying a home. Realtors sometimes need to step back and understand their reasoning, then proceed with caution.
Motivation is the key ingredient in any transaction and sometimes takes time and failure to figure it out. I believe the only one that knows the selling price of a property is the buyer that makes the offer and closes the deal.
Whatever price you start at:
Motivation of seller gets defined and in writing.
Do everything you have been trained to do to get the listing sold, good pictures, intelligent marketing, open houses, in person networking, professional on line representation, newspaper advertising, magazine ads, post cards, emails, blogs and anything else you can think of and then something you have not tried before.
Then step back and let them know all you have done and that it is an honor to have their home as your listing.
Time will become your friend.
Mary Whitlock
Coldwell Banker Residential
Westlake Village, CA
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Barbara Franklin Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Albuquerque,  NM

Date: April 30

I have asked myself, other agents, and at weekly meetings and this is what
we come up with. I ask the seller :when he was a buyer, then explain how
different the market is now. I try to educate them that even though the
market is different, the buyers are still looking for a good deal and the
prettiest home. If you can't win both contests then the buyers agents and
the market doesn't approve of the list price, so no traffic. Honesty is
primo! Walk away and let someone else list it but keep your eye on the
property and call when listing expires or is cancelled and try again. They
might listen to you this time depending on their motivation. OR if they
aren't nagging clients, list it at what they want and get sign calls.
Barbara Franklin
Associate Broker, Realtor
505-275-5386 Office
505-934-1684 Mobile
505-271-5686 Fax
email: franklin@swcp.com

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Robert King Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Saint Petersburg,  FL

Date: April 30

Getting sellers to see the light regarding "right" pricing?

Elyse responds with:

"I think we're in similar markets. I'm in south Florida and dealing with this same situation. I don't have the answer, but we were just talking today how the news talks about the high inventory of homes we have. A large part of the problem is the sellers you speak of who refuse to price their homes where the market demands they price them. The inventory is high because it's almost like dead inventory when you have sellers who refuse to cooperate. Either they want to sell or they don't. Twice in the last month, I've had sellers play hard ball with my buyers in this market. It's crazy. We're in a price-driven market in south Florida. This isn't the time for sellers to play hard ball.
Nobody likes to lose money. If someone comes up with it, I'd like to hear it as well"
.
Elyse and others, I'm in the Florida Market and I feel your pain also. Actually I've been feeling your pain since the introduction of IDX. What we have created in the name of Free Marketing over the Net is a "Free For All" smorgasbord of real estate. The bottom line is this, "Property is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay and a seller is willing to accept". Where does the home shopper or home seller go to find out what a home is worth? On Line! It used to be when a consumer was interested in buying or selling they called a Realtor, but not anymore. They go "On Line". Why? Because it's; more convenient, it's more economical, it saves time, it's FREE and it saves a whole lot of gas and frustration! What would compel a consumer to call someone they do not know only to end up dealing with some independent agent? Why call someone who is going to be neutral about anything and everything? People today have been conditioned to believe that ((information)) sells. If that is true, then why is the "inventory" so high, why is the days on market so long, why are there so many foreclosures and BPOs, REOs, Distressed Sellers? Why? Could it simply be that nobody knows what anything is worth, not even an American Made Automobile. If we are truly living in the "advanced information" age then why are we so ignorant of the process? We may appear to be more organized with cell phones, Ipods, Internet Communications, blogs and emails, but we simply have not captured the heart of what our objective is. As long as the consumer feels they do not need us they will continue to sit on the fence of "I want to think about it". Buyers' hold out for one reason and one reason only, they are not about to end up like the consumers from 2001-2007. They are bombarded with 24/7 news. They see the institutions being bailed out they see the home foreclosures rising they see the belligerent loss mitigation, they see the unemployment, they see the uncertainty of our times just as our fathers saw it back in the 30s. It's all pretty negative but it wasn't negative between 2001-2007. It was all easy street mentality from the lenders to the sharks to the default swap and hedge funded money handlers that waged funds they didn't have and insurance they couldn't depend on. Now lets look at the positive side of the aisle. There are a lot of bargains out there, if you know where to look and calling a professional is your first smart step. There are a lot of people with licenses but few that are PROFESSIONALS in the business of listing and selling real estate. We have to decide are we going to take back our business and run it like a business or are we just going to, "go along to get along"? This market is the product of a whole lot of Hustlers in Political Places, who are looking out for their own welfare not yours or mine!
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P. Erickson Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Cinnaminson,  NJ

Date: May 1

"Need your help in developing a response to a reoccurring issue concerning pricing a home: Pricing that reflects the market value not what the seller thinks the home is worth.

Jim Downs"

"I have turned down more listings in the last year than I can ever remember turning down. I tell the Sellers that we are in a price driven market and the market is what the market is, I can't change it. I also tell them if they really do not have to sell, they should wait to put their home on the market when the market catches up to their price. I tell them that I'd rather be upfront with them now, than have them disappointed in me later. Interestingly enough, I have not seen any of these listings I've turned down, list with another agent."

Cordially,
Lynn H. Wilber

I have found that the high prices desired by sellers are a result of their refinancing the home in the high market. Even if I found a buyer that would buy the house at the price they wanted, the house would not appraise. In actuality, they took their profit on the home in the refinancing, but they do not want to hear that.

Bart
P. Barton Erickson, e-PRO, SRS
Lamon Associates
700 Route 130 North, Suite 108
Cinnaminson, NJ 08077
Office: (856) 829-8090 x28
Cell: (856) 313-2635
Bart@HouseJeanie.com
www.HouseJeanie.com
http://www.realtown.com/housejeanie/blog

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Lori Koschnick Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Newton,  WI

Date: May 1

LOVE this method to show Seller right up front what Time on the Market will cost them on their Net Sheet! Thanks for sharing it us.

I've always approached the CMA explaining one's property value is determined in different ways: 1) An insurance company looks to the cost of replacement when stating value; 2) There's the Value established by the Tax Assessor (who has most often never been in the home); 3) There's the value a property holds to the property owner which is untouchable because memories & a lifetime spent in the home are worth millions -- and though I'd love to put a 5 million price tag on their home (it'd be a great commission... :), pricing too high ultimately yields a net far less than if priced correctly from the beginning; . . . 4) what we need to look at is what today's Buyers are actually paying for properties similar to yours. Those numbers alone dictate a property's value to buyers in today's market.

Lori K.

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Ruth Gabbard Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Honolulu,  HI

Date: May 1

5/1/2009 @ 1:40 PM HST

>>

Jim Downs:

Need your help in developing a response to a reoccurring issue concerning pricing a home: Pricing that reflects the market value not what the seller thinks the home is worth.

<<

Aloha Jim:

I have two strategies that combined, usually works.

1. If we're in a declining market, I ask sellers "Do you want to chase the market down or lead the market down?"

2. I ask how soon they want to sell and let them know that they have the best chance of getting the price and terms they want in the first 30-45 days on the market; the next window is 6 months; and the next window is a year.

If a seller tells me they're OK with 6 months or (even worse) a year, I offer to refer the listing to another agent who specializes in overpriced listings.



With Warmest Aloha,


Ruth A. Gabbard (R), CRB, CRS, SRES, PB
Gabbard Hawaii Properties | Honolulu, Hawaii
808-534-1850 | 877-ALOHA HI (256-4244) Toll Free
Listserv E-mail: hawaiihomes@alohamls.com



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Robert King Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Saint Petersburg,  FL

Date: May 1

In regards to "right pricing" Ruth from Hawaii is the only correct responder with:

"I have two strategies that combined, usually works.

1. If we're in a declining market, I ask sellers "Do you want to chase the market down or lead the market down?"

2. I ask how soon they want to sell and let them know that they have the best chance of getting the price and terms they want in the first 30-45 days on the market; the next window is 6 months; and the next window is a year.

If a seller tells me they're OK with 6 months or (even worse) a year, I offer to refer the listing to another agent who specializes in overpriced listings".

The story goes like this "the higher the price the longer the wait the lower the price the quicker the sale". Which way do you want to liquidate your debt? You can wait for the market to turn around and come to you or you can lower your price to what a buyer is willing to pay and get out before the appraised value falls below what you paid or God forbid what you OWE! Yikes!!!!

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Kris Coutant Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Hudson Falls,  NY

Date: May 2

Honesty is primo! Walk away and let someone else list it but keep your eye on the
property and call when listing expires or is cancelled and try again. They
might listen to you this time depending on their motivation. OR if they
aren't nagging clients, list it at what they want and get sign calls.
Barbara Franklin

Barbara,

I want to preface this with we are all free to do business the way we choose to do business. If you choose to take overpriced listings that is certainly your choice.

However I am concerned that when an agent agrees to list a house above market value, especially when it is quite a bit above market value. I think that this overpriced list price is giving the seller some hope that the house might actually sell for the inflated price. No matter how many times you have explained the value as has been determined by the buyers in the local market. As has already been pointed out, unless it is a cash deal, even if you get a contract, you are going to have a problem with the appraisal.

And are you really working in your client's best interest when you agree to list an overpriced house just so you can get sign calls? And if your name is on a house that is not selling what does that say to other potential clients? They only know that your listing at 123 Main Street has been on the market for 6+ months. They don't know that you have done everything under the sun to show the sellers that their house is just not worth what the sellers think it is worth. At least not in your current market. Not to mention the time and expense of taking an overpriced listing.

Just my opinion, but I work primarily as a buyer's agent. So maybe for some agents any listing is a good listing. As I like to tell the few sellers that I work with- I am not interested in listing your home. I want to sell your home.

Kris Coutant, e-Pro
Associate Broker
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