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Hans Oscarsson Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Jersey City,  NJ

Date: March 17

Paul Silver, Attorney, writes"
"I am an attorney, but I have owned a software company that deals in website
development for some 12 or so years. But regardless, I know what a frame set
is, and what the code for it looks like, and can create and modify them
without much thought... so whatever the source of actual fact, it remains
fact never the less."

Good to hear that we should take faith in what an attorney says these days
;>)
If I owned an oil well, I'd be qualified to teach about the futures markets?
Please say it ain't so!

Hans O Oscarsson LL.M., MBA, ASPR, e-PROR
An Allen F Hainge CyberStarR
REALTORR Associate/Marketing Specialist
RE/MAX Villa REALTORSR Jersey City New Jersey

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Suzanne Hathcock stephens Vendor,  Battle Ground,  WA

Date: March 17

Hans Oscarsson wrote:
Good to hear that we should take faith in what an attorney says these days
;>) If I owned an oil well, I'd be qualified to teach about the futures
markets?
Please say it ain't so!
____________________

Oh please, Hans! Basic HTML is NOT rocket science; it's so simple that
even a lawyer -- or a Realtor -- or your 9 year old nephew -- can learn
it. -:)
That's especially true of HTML for frames, which went mostly out of use
about ten years ago.

--
Suzanne Hathcock Stephens
Point2Agent Qualified Web Site Designer
http://www.SuzStephens.com
360-666-0881

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Paul Silver,  Portsmouth,  RI

Date: March 17

Good to hear that we should take faith in what an attorney says these days
;>)
If I owned an oil well, I'd be qualified to teach about the futures markets?
Please say it ain't so!
Hans O Oscarsson

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I would say, Hans, that if you understood futures markets, go ahead and
teach about them... if you own an oil well, teach about oil wells.

As someone who has owned a web development firm for many years, and who has
personally built dozens of websites, I feel qualified to speak on a topic as
simple as frames... I would not speak on a topic involving Java programming,
of course, as that would be like teaching about futures markets when I only
own an oil well... '

Now if you want to discuss derivatives, securities, mergers and
acquisitions, or initial public offerings, I would put on my attorney hat
and speak to that, since that is what I did for 15 years...

Have a great day!

Best regards,

Paul Silver
Focus Professionals, Inc.

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Hans Oscarsson Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Jersey City,  NJ

Date: March 18

Paul Silver Esq. Other , RI:
"I would say, Hans, that if you understood futures markets, go ahead and
teach about them... if you own an oil well, teach about oil wells."
....

"Now if you want to discuss derivatives, securities, mergers and
acquisitions, or initial public offerings, I would put on my attorney hat
and speak to that, since that is what I did for 15 years..."

Paul,
Please keep your head cool, and don't put on any hat. Understanding sarcasms
wasn't
part of the curricula at whatever Law School you attended, was it?

Hans

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Lindy Hall Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Houston,  TX

Date: March 18

Jeez, Hans.... perhaps you answered Paul's post too quickly.... I did not detect a shred of sarcasm in it.

I'm astounded at how many people pick on Paul....
Law degree envy, I suppose.... yes, I'm jealous of many friends that have law degrees, but fact remains, they stuck thru it, and earned it.

Paul goes out of his way to be helpful.... some of us appreciate that.
No-one is going to agree with him 100% of the time, but so what !
His main fault is that he is not bait-resistant.... :o)

Lindy in Houston

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Paul Silver,  Portsmouth,  RI

Date: March 19

Paul,
Please keep your head cool, and don't put on any hat. Understanding sarcasms
wasn't
part of the curricula at whatever Law School you attended, was it?
Hans

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If the "sarcasms" were taught in law school, I would have taken the course,
but alas, I have not seen any courses, nor any "sarcasms" worth noting...

Have a great day!

Best regards,

Paul Silver
Focus Professionals, Inc.

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Hans Oscarsson Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Jersey City,  NJ

Date: March 20

"Jeez, Hans.... perhaps you answered Paul's post too quickly.... I did not
detect a shred of sarcasm in it."
Lindy in Houston

Jeez, Lindy. Maybe you didn't read MY post at all. The reference to
'sarcasm' was not to Paul's post, it was made to MY OWN earlier post! He,
who lives...
And. No Lindy, I'm not envious of his law degree but proud of my own
advanced degree.

Hans O Oscarsson LL.M., MBA

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Paul Silver,  Portsmouth,  RI

Date: March 20

Paul goes out of his way to be helpful.... some of us appreciate that.
No-one is going to agree with him 100% of the time, but so what !
His main fault is that he is not bait-resistant.... :o)
Lindy in Houston
 

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Thanks Lindy... And you are right, I am not bait resistant, but then, I have
difficulty letting unsubstantiated claims go by... whatever pool of thought,
or perhaps I should use the word "Puddle" of thought it originates in...
 

I do my best to offer what I can.
 

Have a great day!
 

Best regards,
 

Paul Silver
Focus Professionals, Inc.

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Howard Silverman Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Clayton,  GA

Date: March 20

How can I tell if my website uses frames?

Created by: Susie Axt,

Susie,

To check for frames, you look at the code, which is easy using the FireFox web bowser. Click on view and select page source. Frames, per se, are outdated. However, imbedded frames are still commonly used in modern websites. If the code has an <iframe ... > entry in the source, you have an imbedded frame. If it has a <frame> tag in it, it uses frames, wlhich many consider an outdated design model. The <div ...> tag, if used appropriately obviates the need for frames, with the exception of imbedded frames. The latest technology using the AJAX web protocol, has the potential to even make imbedded frames obsolete. However, it will take about two more generations of web browsers to make this completely practical.

To answer your second question, if the person knows what they are doing, $25.00 per hour is very inexpensive. Typical free lance, web programming, rates vary from $100.00 per hour to over $1,000.00 per hour, depending on the geographic location and the programmers experience and ability.

Is your contact an experienced web programmer and designer, or a web technical writer with some design experience? There can be a big difference in the detailed knowledge of what works and what doesn't work, what can be done efficiently and what has high overhead, etc.

I have the background and experience to program my own web sites, of which I have 10. One of my main sites is http://www.SellRabun.com. It's mostly finished. I keep putting on more and more finishing touches. I'm in the process of adding a visitor, email capture, mechanism, which should be functional within two weeks. Only visitors who have come back several times will be asked for their email addresses. Casual visitors will never see it. I currently have three other major section, which are of lesser importance, to add to the site later this Spring.

Best wishes,

Howard L Silverman, PhD, SAR, e-PRO
Coldwell Banker Mountain Brokers
Clayton, GA 30525
mailto:howard@sellrabun.com
http://www.sellrabun.com


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Malcolm Waring Information Technology,  Stroudsburg,  PA

Date: March 22

<sarcasm>

Howard, please provide notarized copies of the credentials you have showing that you are qualified to comment on web design and programming.

Note that facts provided may be subject to a flexible interpretation.

</sarcasm>

heh heh

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