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Art Hademan Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Mount Vernon,  WA

Date: February 23

Thanks for those comments Mary and how are things in Westlake Village?

I use to live off Los Arboles in Thousand Oaks and I really miss the sunshine!

Art Hademan





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From: "Mary J. Whitlock" <RealTalk@RealTown.com>
To: "Art Hademan" <NWWREALESTATE@comcast.net>
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RE: Quality of Agents Today
Mary J. Whitlock Licensed Real Estate Agent Westlake Village, CA
Feb 22, 2009
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While I find these posts interesting I am not able to determine the point trying to be made.
I think the real question is, what is the "Value" of a Realtor?
As for anyone over the age of 45, there is an old saying, "Even if you' re on the right track, you'll get run over if you are standing still."
Putting forward effort, improving your skills and developing new ideas is the foundation to becoming more valuable over time because by not even trying you are gaining experience, good and bad.
Could that add to your value as a Realtor?
And please, enough criticism of other realtors, everyone is trying in their own way.
Mary Whitlock
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage
Westlake Village, CA 91361
 

 

 

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John Cleek Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Louisburg,  KS

Date: February 23

I can't speak for anyone else but I am not suggesting that the test be comprised of trick questions to lower the scores.�


 
What I am suggesting is that if my experience is any guide, a score of 70 out of 100 multiple choice questions that cover maybe 10% of what a REALTOR� needs to know to be a success, is unfair to the applicants who assume that since they pass the test, they know what they need to know. Sure, the post-license test is expected to fill in some of the gaps and brokers should be providing supplemental education but I believe the present system is inadequate to assure professional performance on the part of all agents and brokers.

 
Sure, most professions that maintain high standards of quality have a required residency or practicum. I might feel differently if there were a required residency for all agents and brokers but to my knowledge any programs of this type are strictly voluntary and not based on any common set of standards.

 
I'm not attacking any individual(s). I know many exceptionally well qualified agents and brokers and do not mean to imply otherwise. I'm just concerned that it doesn't take many poorly qualified agents to create a public image that is less than positive for our profession.

���John

 
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Colleen Rourke Silkwood AHWD�Licensed Real Estate Agent Lake Almanor, CA
Feb 21, 2009
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Hmmm, so many points. I do not think "teaching to the test" is bad if the test reflects the knowledge that is needed. Are some of you suggesting that a test should contain trick questions on information that has not been presented in the course? I think it was Art who mentioned the courses often teach the law. If a person has learned the law, they should be able to earn a high test score. Criteria has to start someplace, so having a class that does a good job of teaching the information required to pass a required test is a good thing. If you think the test should be harder, that is a different issue. Who wants to waste their time and money on a class that won't serve your needs?

While many people have succeeded at whatever they chose to do without formal education, education does generally help a person improve their ability to think and process information. Therefore, saying a person graduated in "X" and now works in "y" means that graduation was not useful isn't really true.

What course work does "totally" prepare a student to perform competently on their own upon completion? Doctors then do a residency, teachers then become a student teacher, agents also need help and training. It is a reality that not everyone who can perform can teach and therefore, not all Brokers can teach. I saw a Colorado RE/MAX on the web where the Broker values education and even brings in teachers for classes. I sure wished I was in Colorado! I passed all the courses that CA requires with very high marks, but I did not for a minute think I was "done", but rather had been prepared to begin. An agent young enough to be my daughter has been an absolute sweetheart and has always been there to help and teach me, but the office does not have a teaching program. We just happened to get along well and I've made it a point to help her whenever I could.

Colleen Rourke REALTOR, AHWD

RE/MAX Almanor Properties

313 Peninsula DR

Lake Almanor, CA

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Date: February 23

Art Hademan: In reference to Cheryl Laxton's message, I am sorry for the confusion. My intention was to say, treat new people with respect and friendliness, try to helpful if the occasion arises. Do not treat them as an idiot. My motto is "treat everyone the way you wish to be treated." Thanks for your comment back, Art.

 Wally and Sylvia Hamilton

Broker Associates

 Phone: (530) 274-1262

Email: wshamilton@comcast.net

Web: www.goldcountryproperties.com

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Robert King Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Saint Petersburg,  FL

Date: February 24

Just to pipe in on something that John Cleek had to say about "Quality of Agents Today"

"I'm not attacking any individual(s). I know many exceptionally well qualified agents and brokers and do not mean to imply otherwise. I'm just concerned that it doesn't take many poorly qualified agents to create a public image that is less than positive for our profession".

You can start with those we elect at the Local, State, and National levels of leadership. I don't want to attack any individual(s) either. But we all must focus on the leadership that has brought us to this place we are in. The professionalism can best be qualified at the leadership level. Look at the biggest corporations in America today. Bank of America, Citigroup and The Big Three! Not to mention Fannie, Freddie and AIG. Look at the leadership in our Congress. Could a few bad apples actually screw up the image? Congressional leadership is not a "service" it's a life long Career lead by the best marketeers and advertisers lobby money can afford. We've been lead to believe, by the media, that it was the "man at the top" who orchestrated all this misery the current President has inherited. Really! Will what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Right? Isn't our President the leader of the mob that rules? So if the current President is doing the same thing as the last President was doing what makes any of us think He is less culpable? Is there a special insulation that surrounds leadership? We elect people to sit in seats of authority and they in turn APPOINT those who can't cut the mustard in there own districts. We are a "Representative Republic" before we are a Democracy, but we are morphing more into an Appointed State of miss-fits and tax cheats who run the calculators and tell us, everything is going to be all right "tomorrow" as the market heads for 7000. Sunny days are just around the corner. Do any of us really think it's any different at Local, State and National levels of leadership, namely NAR? Most Real Estate School's are regulated by the state. The objective and claim to fame for a majority of Real Estate Schools is based on "passing" the State Exam! What's that all about? That's like School Teachers taking time out of their daily duty to make sure their students pass the "stress test" so they can merit their jobs. Real Estate Schools like Public Education actually think nobody is going to be left behind. But think again, people are being left behind all the time, because they think, "lets just get through theTEST"! The Problem we have with our Professional Image can best be determined at the level of leadership at the TOP. You change the crew at the Top and you'll change the Image the public presumes at the bottom. But only the IMAGE will be changed. In order to change the out come you have to change your way of thinking at the bottom. For there to be any real effective change you have to change from a capitalization way of thinking to a more nationalization way of thinking. Is that what we really want for America? Look for the new BUZZ WORD "PREPERSONALIZATION". It's

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Candee Sorensen Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Beverly Hills,  CA

Date: February 25

I have been reading the comments about the quality of agents today and would like to say that after 6 years in the business I agree. The way I have tried to rise above this is to concentrate on learning the sales contract. I go to every training session available and pride myself on knowing the fine points of the contract. I have gained respect with my knowledge. I have fewer problems with closing escrows and have protected my clients. Since my farm area is Beverly Hills, it is especially important to be knowledgeable when you are dealing with high priced properties. Your professionalism will result in a good reputation which is essential in the real estate profession.
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