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Deede,
I still think you are going the wrong way on this issue. We don't need to pay people for their knowledge - that only happens in college and real estate school. We have seasoned agents in our Century 21 office who are more than willing to help any agent who has a question or procedural inquiry. I also know many agents in Arizona who are glad to help new agents because, like I said before, it builds strength and knowledge in the company and confidence in the individual agent. That's how you learn and build relationships. That's one thing you must have missed in my previous comments!

You mentioned that you weren't talking about money but in your very next breath you say that you were talking about having someone senior, who is experienced, around for a nominal fee.....to help the new guy! Deede, everybody today seems to be all about money. It's becoming obvious to me that you're falling into that group. You are also becoming very judgmental regarding why agents, over the last few years, have come into the business. Who cares why they decided to become agents. Most likely it was because of the lure of a big income. That's free enterprise!Yes, it does not bode well for the industry when the type of agent you describe makes a mess of their transactions. But as I asked before - where the heck is the broker responsible for these folks? Every industry has it's bad eggs so concentrate on doing the best you can and try not to get caught up in the bad stuff going on. We have enough to worry about without getting involved with playing lord and master over someone you think shouldn't be in the industry. Your perspectives, I believe, are half cocked and I don't think I'd want to work for a company that develops that type of attitude in their senior agents. You are a senior agent aren't you? Do you charge a new agent for picking your brain?
 

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	Professional Development RE: Quality of Agents Today Deede Wockenfuss Licensed Real Estate Agent Chandler, AZ Feb 19, 2009 Art Hademan says "Shame on you. How do you expect new people to learn if senior agents don't take them under their wings and give them some help when they need it." Art, I think you have misunderstood me.� I'm not suggesting that Senior Realtors take advantage of, or half of the income on the Junior Realtors.� In fact, I was not talking about income at all, but about having SOMEONE who is experienced, knowledgeable and ethical be available (for a nominal fee, or human nature will keep him from continuing the help).� You asked who taught me and how did they benefit?� I was in new homes sales in 1976.� I worked with a senior partner, who got �% override on every transaction I did.� I was so grateful to have him teach me, that the �% coming out of my commissions was nothing.� If he did not teach me, I wouldn't have had any income anyway. The entire point I was making is that in the past few years there have been too many licensees entering the business to MILK the industry, not be career professionals.� They were completely unneeded and only moved through the broker turnstile because brokers were collecting agents for greater profit.� In the new real estate industry to come, brokers will not be able to afford massive numbers of uncontrolled agents who only do a transaction or two per year.� They will need to cut costs, overhead, bricks and mortar, and move into more technology to make a profit with dedicated career professionals who give this industry a good name.� Here in Arizona, we have brokers who 'house' the licenses of more than 400 agents.� HOW can this broker know what these people are doing, let alone teach them? I'm not suggesting that we throw out the baby with the bathwater.� However, the 'traditional' way that brokerages have worked for many years needs to be revamped for the professionalism and good of the industry. Deede Wockenfuss Marketing Manager, CybrSold Concepts (480) 248-9500 Office (888) 877-3710 E-Fax (602) 291-2368 Mobile Deede@CybrSold.Com CybrSold.Com

OK John,

I may have jumped on you because I could not fully comprehend what you were saying.

Most professors have a way of confounding the simple.

I agree with 99% of what you said. I was an instructor at Boeing before getting into this business and if you think our educational standard is too low you ought to try Boeings' educational environment for a while!

I feel that if someone wants to get into this business then let them give it a try. If they don't cut the mustard then the business will eventually weed them out. I do not agree that the standards are too low. The people that set the standards have worked in this field and develop the yardstickds by which we are measured. Anyway, that seems to be the way it is in Washington State. Again, the test is designed to give an agent the basic knowledge not a college degree. It is meant to be a beginning step and the rest is learned on the street and through continuing education. What else can you do. Don't fall into Deede's train of thought where she's trying to be God to the real estate industry. If you want to sincerely improve the industry through regulation then get on the rules committee of your local board of realty and work that organization to improve standards. I would applaud you in that effort.

Keep up the banter - I love a good discussion!


 

To Cheryl Laxton: Gosh, your message brought back old memories concerning not so nice agents.. Cheryl, this is not a new situation. I have been a Realtor/Broker for 29 years. I received my license in 1980 and things were not too good in the Real Estate Market then either. I was new to the business, Real Estate was terrible and so was one particular agent. In his eyes I could do nothing correctly. This person had no formal education, I did, he never attended any kind of seminars whatsoever for his brilliant real estate knowledge, I did - yet - he seemed to think that I was born knowing everything I needed to know about real estate, wow! was that ever a wrong assessment. Agents like that have always been there, but eventually, they will not exists in your eyes because there are so many more really, truly professionals who will be happy to assist you or be a great sounding board, I am sure, since you have had you license for eight years now and are one of the "old guys" now, you found that out a long time ago. Just always remember as I do, when the "new kid on the block" appears in your life, you know what not to do.

 Wally and Sylvia Hamilton

Broker Associates

 Phone: (530) 274-1262

Email: wshamilton@comcast.net

Web: www.goldcountryproperties.com

Sylvia,

I am confused. When the new kid on the block shows up exactly what do you not do?

Art Hademan



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	Professional Development RE: Quality of Agents Today Sylvia Hamilton Feb 22, 2009 To Cheryl Laxton: Gosh, your message brought back old memories concerning not so nice agents.. Cheryl, this is not a new situation. I have been a Realtor/Broker for 29 years. I received my license in 1980 and things were not too good in the Real Estate Market then either. I was new to the business, Real Estate was terrible and so was one particular agent. In his eyes I could do nothing correctly. This person had no formal education, I did, he never attended any kind of seminars whatsoever for his brilliant real estate knowledge, I did - yet - he seemed to think that I was born knowing everything I needed to know about real estate, wow! was that ever a wrong assessment. Agents like that have always been there, but eventually, they will not exists in your eyes because there are so many more really, truly professionals who will be happy to assist you or be a great sounding board, I am sure, since you have had you license for eight years now and are one of the "old guys" now, you found that out a long time ago. Just always remember as I do, when the "new kid on the block" appears in your life, you know what not to do. Wally and Sylvia Hamilton Broker Associates Phone: (530) 274-1262 Email: wshamilton@comcast.net Web: www.goldcountryproperties.com   .