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 FDIC Insured for $50M per Account in Hawaii???

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Ruth Gabbard, Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Honolulu,  HI

Date: November 25, 2008, Number of Replies: 5


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11/25/2008 @ 1:05 PM HST

Aloha...specifically Hawaii RTers:

I wonder if any of you heard the radio commercial in Hawaii about a local bank that was offering FDIC insurance of $50M per account. I heard it about a week ago as I was driving between appointments. I wasn't particularly focused on it until I heard the FDIC insured amount. I thought I heard wrong but the commercial repeated the amount. I may be wrong on the $50M, but I'm pretty sure it was a huge amount...not just a few million. 

It was not a main stream bank like Bank of Hawaii, First Hawaiian or American Savings. I thought it was Bank of the Orient, but I called them and ironically the person I spoke to had also heard the commercial but said it was not their bank.

Did anyone else hear the commercial and remember which bank it was? If true, I am wondering how that is possible. Wouldn't the FDIC insured amount be the same for all banks that are FDIC insured?
 
 
With Warmest Aloha,

Ruth A. Gabbard (R), CRB, CRS, SRES, PB
Gabbard Hawaii Properties | Honolulu, Hawaii
808-534-1850 | 877-ALOHA HI (256-4244) Toll Free
Listserv E-mail: realtalk@hawaii-properties.info
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Robert King Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Saint Petersburg,  FL

Date: November 25, 2008

Ruth brings up an intersting radio spot:

"I wonder if any of you heard the radio commercial in Hawaii about a local bank that was offering FDIC insurance of $50M per account. I heard it about a week ago as I was driving between appointments. I wasn't particularly focused on it until I heard the FDIC insured amount. I thought I heard wrong but the commercial repeated the amount. I may be wrong on the $50M, but I'm pretty sure it was a huge amount...not just a few million".

What difference does it make if it's $250 thousand or $50 million or $800 billion per deposit. Does it really make any difference if it's an FDIC policy?  Remember we are talking about INSURANCE here not cash.  Of coarse we can trust in the good faith of our Federal Government to make good on the claims, Right?  Think about it, If we have a US Treasury that can fork over $800 billion at the swipe of a pin # I'm sure $50 million would be nothing but pocket change for the FDIC.  Yea Ruth it's probably true. WHY NOT?  We believe what ever we are told and want to hear.  It's like believing we are Monkey's Uncles.  People have been trying to shove that crap down our throats since the NEA high jacked higher education. 

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Steve Ervin Real Estate Lender,  Largo,  FL

Date: November 26, 2008

"I wonder if any of you heard the radio commercial in Hawaii about a local bank that was offering FDIC insurance of $50M per account. I heard it about a week ago as I was driving between appointments. I wasn't particularly focused on it until I heard the FDIC insured amount. I thought I heard wrong but the commercial repeated the amount. I may be wrong on the $50M, but I'm pretty sure it was a huge amount...not just a few million. ..."
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Don't get too excited about this new program. My bank here in Florida ...Bank Atlantic...is part of this program. In talking with my banker at first I thought it was kind of like a sweep account which is used by companies to collect all the money deposited by various stores into a single account...but in reverse. In other words I thought that they had set up a system where I could deposit my money into one account and it would automatically be spread out over 10 to 20 or more accounts in different banks so that I would never have more than $250,000 in any single account. And I had hoped I would be able to set up an account where I could still write all my checks (especially very big checks) and have the money drawn into the clearing account" as needed from the other subsidiary accounts in different banks. I got excited when I saw the sign in front of my bank offering "FDIC insurance--up to $50,000,000." I thought this would solve a problem for me because I carry an average daily balance in my account that exceeds the FDIC $250,000 limit and I would love to be able to distribute the money from my main bank account into enough banks to give me coverage beyond the $250,000 FDIC limit.
 
Unfortunately how it works is that if you have more deposits than the $250,000 covered by FDIC the bank will buy CDs in your name from a network of other banks (at market rates which my banker said would be slightly lower than the rate offered by my bank--covering their administration fee). It is a pretty interesting concept for someone with a LOT of money. I mean to get full FDIC coverage on $50,000,000 you would have to buy CDs in 200 DIFFERENT banks. So having your bank administer the whole thing for you would be a great thing. But it only works with CDs...not regular bank accounts...so you also need to structure the maturity of the CDs so that some mature every month or every week (in some bank somewhere) if you want to have access to part of your money at any given time without penalties for cashing in CDs before they mature. Again it would be very convenient for you to have one contact to organize and manage this for you.
 
I have one question though...if you did have $50,000,000 sitting around...why in the world would you be putting THAT much money into CDs in the first place? And why would you want to deal with a banker to do this rather than a REAL investment specialist???
 
I hope this program will get some banker somewhere thinking that a reverse sweep account like I described here would be a HUGE thing for businesses like mine which regularly carry average balances way above the $250,000 FDIC limit. With the computerized electronic transfer system (Check21 system) it would NOT be terribly difficult to set up. I know I would sleep better at night if I I knew that my business would not collapse the next day if my bank was seized by the feds during the night.
 
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Tom Hathaway Licensed Real Estate Broker,  TN

Date: November 26, 2008

An private insurance company that develops and sells speciality insurance policies, that was located across the hall from one of my former companies designed an insurance program that would allow a bank, or an individual, to buy additional insurance beyond the normal $100,000 cap (now $250,000 cap) to cover them if a bank failed. He worked on this program for several years first getting other very large investment/insurance companies to join together to re-insure the program, and then getting approval from the various state regulators. Getting investors/insurance firms to reinsure the program was no problem. But, he had a hard time getting the state regulators to approved this policy. Even though he had several very large insurance companies like AIG willing to back him in his attempt to get this policy approved the last I knew (4 years ago) the states were dragging their feet. I have lost touch with him since but I have wondered the past few months if he ever got these policies approved and if so, how much he is sweating things out right now. It might be possible he got Hawaii to approved his insurance program and a bank in Hawaii purchased the policy for their large customers or is making it available to them. My friend's theory was that the U.S. government would never allow another depression to occur thus making his insurance a really profitable program for himself and his investors. I guess we will see if he was correct or not. The name of his company is/was Centrex Underwriters.
Tom Hathaway
 

 
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Eileen Landau, Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Naperville-Downers Grove,  IL

Date: November 26, 2008

"...if you did have $50,000,000 sitting around...why in the world would you be putting THAT much money into CDs in the first place? And why would you want to deal with a banker to do this rather than a REAL investment specialist??? asked Steve Ervin."

Steve,

If I were Warren Buffet, I'd probably want a lot of my money in safe instruments. And, with the market's volatility jumping all over the place, CD's would be one of the safest.

And, with Warren's immense wealth...his 50 million is probably change. But, you know he doesn't buy anything he doesn't understand...and I suspect he has the first dollar he earned.

Safety in today's market is important.

Eileen Landau, ABR, CRS, E-Pro
Over 800 Homes Sold!
Realty Executives, Pro/Team
Serving Naperville, Downers Grove
and Woodridge
630-961-2600 Direct
630-515-9500 Office

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Ruth Gabbard Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Honolulu,  HI

Date: November 26, 2008

11/26/2008 @ 8:31 PM HST

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Tom Hathaway (snip)

An private insurance company that develops and sells speciality insurance policies, that was located across the hall from one of my former companies designed an insurance program that would allow a bank, or an individual, to buy additional insurance beyond the normal $100,000 cap (now $250,000 cap) to cover them if a bank failed.

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Tom, that's interesting. I was not aware that additional insurance beyond the FDIC cap could be purchased.

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Steve has a question about my $50M:

I have one question though...if you did have $50,000,000 sitting around...why in the world would you be putting THAT much money into CDs in the first place? And why would you want to deal with a banker to do this rather than a REAL investment specialist???
 
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Steve, I'm shy just a few million from the $50M, but thought it was better than putting it under my mattress. And please keep it a secret because all of a sudden I'm going to have friends and relatives I didn't know I had. LOL
 
Actually, my original post wasn't about investing $50M with a bank. I just wanted to know if anyone else had heard the commercial because I was pretty certain I had heard wrong. But then when the rep from Bank of the Orient told me she heard it to, well, then I thought it was possibly an error or a misleading commercial.
 

With Warmest Aloha,
 
Ruth A. Gabbard (R), CRB, CRS, SRES, PB
Gabbard Hawaii Properties | Honolulu, Hawaii
808-534-1850 | 877-ALOHA HI (256-4244) Toll Free
Listserv E-mail: realtalk@hawaii-properties.info
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