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John Cleek, Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Louisburg,  KS

Date: November 11, 2008, Number of Replies: 24


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An excerpt from an editorial in the today's New York Times provides insight into a plan that may be nearing approval that offers hope for an early resolution of the home mortgage foreclosure mess.


The F.D.I.C. has developed a sensible plan that is being used, with promising early results, to rework defaulting mortgages at IndyMac, the failed Southern California bank. Under the plan, the banks restructure troubled mortgages � lowering the interest rate, extending the loan term or deferring payment on a portion of principal � so that they�re affordable. The goal is to reduce the monthly payment to about a third to two-fifths of a borrower�s after-tax income.

The deal also benefits mortgage lenders and investors, because, over time, the new loans would make more money than would be recouped in a foreclosure. If the loans default, the government would share in the losses.

As I understand the plan would put the onus on the banks holding the mortgages to restructure them based on certain guidelines and the government would provide assistance to cover the short term losses resulting from the restructuring. Makes sense to me. What do you think?


John

John E Cleek, Ph.D., e-PRO,
Realtor� and Marketing Consultant
The CrownPlatinum Team
Crown Realty of Kansas
Miami County - Linn County - Johnson County
1005 W. Amity � Louisburg, KS 66053
Licensed in Kansas and Missouri
Pho: 913-709-4423 � Fax: 913-837-2549
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Ed and cindy Knight Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Shelby Township,  MI

Date: November 11, 2008

John Wrote -The F.D.I.C. has developed a sensible plan that is being used, with promising early results, to rework defaulting mortgages at IndyMac, the failed Southern California bank. Under the plan, the banks restructure troubled mortgages � lowering the interest rate, extending the loan term or deferring payment on a portion of principal � so that they�re affordable. The goal is to reduce the monthly payment to about a third to two-fifths of a borrower�s after-tax income

Perhaps in other parts of the country loans were done different but here in MI most of the sellers we meet have low interest rates already. They also have newer loans, 5-6 years old, so neither of those options would work. Plus it will not work for those being relocated, those losing jobs or those that just want out of the home. And we see plenty of them. As for the last part I am sure there is much more to that - like value, job history, previous income, debt load.

Here in MI we had the unions raping the auto companies for years and many people bought homes based on high wages and overtime. Now the auto companies have no overtime and have given pay cuts - so the banks are going to reduce their house payments? Let's see your income goes down so your house payment goes down? What about the folks that took buy outs or early retirement and are working for a lot less? Do you hear bail out #2? This is crazy.

I'm working twice as hard as I did a few years ago so I can pay all my bills, maybe they need to get a second job.  Personally I think they make it to easy.

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Gloria Handley Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Chandler,  AZ

Date: November 11, 2008

Snip from John-  The F.D.I.C. has developed a sensible plan that is being used, with promising early results, to rework defaulting mortgages at IndyMac, the failed Southern California bank. Under the plan, the banks restructure troubled mortgages � lowering the interest rate, extending the loan term or deferring payment on a portion of principal � so that they�re affordable. The goal is to reduce the monthly payment to about a third to two-fifths of a borrower�s after-tax income.

 
As I understand the plan would put the onus on the banks holding the mortgages to restructure them based on certain guidelines and the government would provide assistance to cover the short term losses resulting from the restructuring. Makes sense to me. What do you think?
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Personally, I don't think it makes a lot of sense or is fair, but will reserve comment until I hear the plan...  There are a LOT of scenerios that aren't being addressed.  Maybe when we hear more it will help. 
 
I could give lots of scenerios that this plan would be a big question mark.  If its fair I am good with it.. if it isn't then I think they will create some huge problems.
Gloria
Chandler/Gilbert AZ
 
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John Cleek Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Louisburg,  KS

Date: November 11, 2008

I have always believed that fairness is in the eye of the beholder. We all have differing ideas about what is fair. But one thing I know is that unless a solution that takes care of the victims who are losing their homes (not just the banks) we are not going to see our industry recover any time soon. We are not hurting near as much as some of your areas are hurting but even in our area, the flood of foreclosures is a dead weight on home prices.�



�� �John

John E Cleek, Ph.D., e-PRO,�
Realtor� and Marketing Consultant
The CrownPlatinum Team
Crown Realty of Kansas
Miami County - Linn County - Johnson County
1005 W. Amity � Louisburg, KS 66053
Licensed in Kansas and Missouri
Pho: 913-709-4423 � Fax: 913-837-2549
Finding the�RIGHT REALTOR�. . .�Priceless!

On Nov 11, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Gloria wrote:

Personally, I don't think it makes a lot of sense or is fair, but will reserve comment until I hear the plan... There are a LOT of scenerios that aren't being addressed. Maybe when we hear more it will help.

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Carolyn r Kelly Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Terre Haute,  IN

Date: November 11, 2008

I am currently dealing with a client that is behind in his Countrywide mortgage. Due to an error (which I just got corrected at the County assessor and Treasurer's office, and will refund in excess to $2500 in tax fees to Countrywide for this year). However, there is an atty involved, and his associate called me and wanted to know what my 'fee' was. I explained that in the Sate of Indiana, unless I close a deal I do not get paid. I have a signed contract with the seller (which the atty said he was not sure had gone into foreclosure (countrywide)) but that I needed to go forward with the listing- even though I advised the owner to contact Countrywide to see if he could workout an arrangement to retain his home and work to make up payments, reduce interest-extend loan, etc. The atty's associate, when questioned didn't know how Realtors in our state earn a living, he has never purchased a home - with or without a Realtor.
I would appreciate any comments from others that may have dealt with this- ethically I feel I am correct- making money on this is not going to happen, but shouldn't we assist a seller to remain in their homes?
Pro/con I would appreciate constructive criticism on this as a local smaller area Realtor.
Carolyn R Kelly
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Terre Haute, IN 47807
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Date: November 12, 2008

I do try t help them all the time, I don't make money on it, but at least I help the neighborhood, and I got no one to offer me money for it.

Jackie Miami Florida

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Sandi Pfister Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Manhattan Beach,  CA

Date: November 12, 2008

Carolyn - Congratulations on being a member of your community first, while doing your job as a professional in the real estate arena and a REALTOR. I agree that your first choice should be to keep clients in their homes, since troubled homeowners who decide to give up their homes only succeed in reducing the value of other homes in the community. And even though you will not earn a commission for helping that client remain in their home, I'm sure your name will be one that will be shared because you did the right thing. Thank you for being that kind of a person!

 

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John Cleek Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Louisburg,  KS

Date: November 13, 2008

An editorial in today's New York Times included the following:


The whole point of the bailouts is to stabilize the financial system. But the system will not stabilize until house prices stabilize, and house prices will not stabilize until the government finds a way to stanch foreclosures on a large scale. (emphasis added)

The Bush administration�s new plan applies to delinquent loans controlled by the government-run mortgage companies, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They will use a fast-track process to lower troubled borrowers� monthly payments to an affordable level, either through a longer repayment term, a lower interest rate or deferral of payment on part of the principle.

The biggest problem with the plan is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac control relatively few of the types of loans that have driven defaults to crisis proportions. Even if the companies successfully restructured all of their troubled loans, more than three million Americans still stand to lose their homes this year and next. As long as homes are being lost by the millions, house prices will continue to drop, making Americans poorer, the financial system shakier and the economy weaker.

Administration officials have said that they hope other lenders will emulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The notion that the government might lead by example is an improvement over the administration�s previous tack � merely urging the mortgage industry to act voluntarily to stop foreclosures. But it�s still pie in the sky.

I doubt any of us would take exception with the first sentence above (underscored). I am interested in hearing assessments of how house prices can be stabilized and how the government can most effectively stanch foreclosures on a large scale.

John

John E Cleek, Ph.D., e-PRO,
Realtor� and Marketing Consultant
The CrownPlatinum Team
Crown Realty of Kansas
Miami County - Linn County - Johnson County
1005 W. Amity � Louisburg, KS 66053
Licensed in Kansas and Missouri
Pho: 913-709-4423 � Fax: 913-837-2549
Finding the RIGHT REALTOR . . . Priceless!


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Date: November 13, 2008

An editorial in today's New York Times included the following:

The whole oint of the bailouts is to stabilize the financial system. But the system will not stabilize until house prices stabilize, and house prices will not stabilize until the government finds a way to stanch foreclosures on a large scale. (emphasis added)

The Bush administrations new plan applies to delinquent loans controlled by the government-run mortgage companies, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They will use a fast-track process to lower troubled borrowers� monthly payments to an affordable level, either through a longer repayment term, a lower interest rate or deferral of payment on part of the principle.

The biggest problem with the plan is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac control relatively few of the types of loans that have driven defaults to crisis proportions. Even if the companies successfully restructured all of their troubled loans, more than three million Americans still stand to lose their homes this year and next. As long as homes are being lost by the millions, house prices will continue to drop, making Americans poorer, the financial system shakier and the economy weaker.

Administration officials have said that they hope other lenders will emulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The notion that the government might lead by example is an improvement over the administration's previous tack � merely urging the mortgage industry to act voluntarily to stop foreclosures. But it's still pie in the sky.

I doubt any of us would take exception with the first sentence above (underscored). I am interested in hearing assessments of how house prices can be stabilized and how the government can most effectively stanch foreclosures on a large scale.

John

John,

I fully agree with you. It is my understanding that Fannie Mae obtains funds from the Fed at .5%. Why not use FHA or some government organization to make loans to all who qualify at a rate of 3%. There should be a cap on the amount of loan, Ex $200,000 max. The loans would be non-transferable, given historical mortgage payoff the average loan would be paid off in 7 years. This would bring more people to the market, enable some of the people who cannot pay their loans to be able to pay. The cost to taxpayers would be minimum and the boost to the economy would be enormous. I realize that no one would make lots of money off this type of operation, but think that it would be helpful to the economy as a whole. When I bought my first home, at 6%, my dad said that I should wait for the rates to come down to 4%. That shows what has happen to the cost of capital over the years. Maybe the REALTOR organize should lobby for this, use our fees for something useful.

Ed

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Larry Van druff Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Olney,  MD

Date: November 13, 2008

I just was forwarded a great article in National Business Review that filled in a lot of holes in my understanding of what went wrong regarding our current economic state of affairs. http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/11/11/The-End-of-Wall-Streets-Boom?page=0 Great read!

Larry

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