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 Ideas that work in todays market

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Jim Clauser, Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Athens,  GA

Date: September 18, 2008, Number of Replies: 74


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Hello Real Talkers,
 
What about starting a discussion on marketing and ideas that work or don't work in today's market. Things have changed over the past year and what once worked, might not anymore.
 
I for one, dropped just about all my print advertising. Not due to economics, but mainly because I was not seeing the return on the dollar and it was my most expensive advertising medium.
 
Who's next?
 

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Ann Quinn Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Port St. Lucie,  FL

Date: September 18, 2008

I agree with Jim, I too have dropped almost all of the print advertising. As we are in South Florida, I will do some during "season" just to please listing clients, but not much, just enough to please them initially. Once I feed them information about "hits" on their property on line, that seems to satisfy them that the Internet is what is producing most of our traffic . . and sometimes snow up North!

Ann Quinn
Illustrated Properties
Palm Beach Gardens, Fl 33418





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Rich Hudson Information Technology,  San Diego,  CA

Date: September 18, 2008

Hello Real Talkers,


 

What about starting a discussion on marketing and ideas that work or don't work in today's market. Things have changed over the past year and what once worked, might not anymore.

I for one, dropped just about all my print advertising. Not due to economics, but mainly because I was not seeing the return on the dollar and it was my most expensive advertising medium.

Who's next?


 

Jim Clauser
 

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Great idea, Jim. From a marketing perspective, I think everything should be on the table. First things first. Do you (everyone) have a business plan with a marketing element? If not, you need to get serious. Your marketing plan should come complete with tracking, budget, target audience, results, market segments, results, concepts, creative, flexibility, etc. If not, you will not know what works and what doesn't.

It's funny, or maybe not, but when market shifts, it seems the first thing people cut is their marketing. And, at a time when they need it the most. In a slow market, those with a solid plan increase market share, the rest go back to their old jobs.

While the Internet has changed the way consumers begin their search for a new home, I wouldn't autmatically drop print advertising. Every method has its pluses and minuses. Many companies offer a combination of print and online advertising. Then there is the recoginition-based marketing such as billboards, bus benches, shopping carts, hand outs, etc. This is marketing that is difficult to track, but should be part of your overall marketing plan.

Online marketing efforts can also offer a lot of options. It is not enough anymore to just have a website. Even the best looking sites have to be optimized with SEO, keywords, links, content, per per click, etc. There are so many options. Personal sites, company sites, stealth sites, niche sites, etc. Don't disregard any of these opportunities. However, you have to make sure what you set up is manageable, ins't just duplicate content, and has a unique target audience.

For those who haven't already done so, the e-PRO course has an entire module dedicated to marketing. And it provides a wealth of information on every aspect of online marketing.

So, that is my contribution for today. I would love to see this thread have long legs and provide insight into what works and what doesn't.

In today's environment, it all starts with a plan. Do you have one?

Rich Hudson
Director of PR/Marketing
InternetCrusade
(619) 283-7302 Ext. 602
Rich@InternetCrusade.com

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Jill Haymore Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Covington,  GA

Date: September 18, 2008

What a fabulous thread! I, too, have seen my business totally evolve in the last several years. I joined my husband in his 11+ year career back in 2002. At that time, we were already seeing a tremendous increase in our traffic from hits on  internet sources.

Just today, I received a last minute call from our local newspaper. Someone had dropped out of the real estate edition at the last minute, leaving a vacancy of 1/2 page in Friday's edition and they were going to "let it go" at the cut rate of $400. Gee....for $400 I can increase my search engine presence for at least 10 months, or I can pay for 1/4 of my upgraded presence on realtor.com, or I can play for almost 1 year of improved visual tours and free links to those websites. Hmm.....it's just economics.

Our regions print real estate advertising magazine has gotten smaller and smaller, and for my part, it's not because of slower business....to the contrary, I am not advertising in that medium because the $$$ it generates are just not equal to the $$$ I spend. I will not be a defunct company because I've gone broke!

Seriously, advertising budgeting is critical. If we put the dollars we formerly spend on monthly real estate magazines, we could make a significantly stronger impact in other directions.

Jill Finney Haymore, Realtor, Covington,GA

mail to:jhaymore@remax.net  or visit me at http://haymorehometeam.com

 

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Ronny Geenen Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Glendora,  CA

Date: September 18, 2008

Jim Clauser says:

What about starting a discussion on marketing and ideas that work or don't work in today's market. Things have changed over the past year and what once worked, might not anymore.

I for one, dropped just about all my print advertising. Not due to economics, but mainly because I was not seeing the return on the dollar and it was my most expensive advertising medium.

Who's next?

Floor time does not work anymore. As soon as a prospective buyer sees a for sale sign, he/she checked it on the internet and does not call the office.

Sellers do not walk into a Real Estate office when they want to sell their home. They check the internet for the value of their home and also search the internet for a Realtor or talk to friends to here from them who they recommend.

RG

Glendora, CA 91741

Info@RonnyGeenen.com

Http://CaFoothillsRealEstate.com

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Barb Szabo Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Broadview Heights,  OH

Date: September 19, 2008

About 2 years ago one of the largest real estate companies in our area discontinued their print advertising with the largest newspaper in the area. I though it was a terrible move. Since then, I can see that it was just the opposite. They occasionally put a company ad in but we no longer see the full page one line ads for listings and open houses. Their savings had to have been enormous! It does not appear to have hurt them at all but, of course, I don't have access to their numbers. I myself have only put 1 ad in that same paper and I only did it because the property is a commercial one and I haven't had any showings. Now I tell my sellers up front not to expect very much, if any advertising in the local paper and they don't appear to have a problem with that as long as their listing will have strong internet presence. My one dilemma is open houses for which I feel I must run an ad. Has anyone held open houses using only the internet to advertise them? If so, what was the result?

Barb Szabo
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ReMax Trinity
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Brecksville, OH 44141
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P. Erickson Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Cinnaminson,  NJ

Date: September 19, 2008

Jill Finney Haymore said: Just today, I received a last minute call from our local newspaper. Someone had dropped out of the real estate edition at the last minute, leaving a vacancy of 1/2 page in Friday's edition and they were going to "let it go" at the cut rate of $400. Gee....for $400 I can increase my search engine presence for at least 10 months, or I can pay for 1/4 of my upgraded presence on realtor.com, or I can play for almost 1 year of improved visual tours and free links to those websites. Hmm.....it's just economics.

Our regions print real estate advertising magazine has gotten smaller and smaller, and for my part, it's not because of slower business....to the contrary, I am not advertising in that medium because the $$$ it generates are just not equal to the $$$ I spend. I will not be a defunct company because I've gone broke!

Seriously, advertising budgeting is critical. If we put the dollars we formerly spend on monthly real estate magazines, we could make a significantly stronger impact in other directions.

I agree. One of the things a Real Estate office can do is track the results of marketing by asking phone callers or any other leads: "Where did you see the ad?" Or, "How did you hear about us?" You can do this with a computerized appointment showing system. We happen to use a system by "AOS - Real Front Desk" The link to their site is http://www.reaos.com/reaos_site/. The program can be set up to track all your advertising campaigns. You can count the actual calls received and connect them to your advertising.

Bart

P. Barton Erickson, e-PRO, SRS

Lamon Associates

Office: (856) 829-8090 x28

Cell Phone: (856) 313-2635

Email: Bart@HouseJeanie.com

Website: http://www.HouseJeanie.com

Blog: www.realtown.com/housejeanie/blog

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Rich Hudson Information Technology,  San Diego,  CA

Date: September 19, 2008

Sellers do not walk into a Real Estate office when they want to sell their home. They check the internet for the value of their home and also search the internet for a Realtor or talk to friends to here from them who they recommend.

RG

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Part of the problem in addressing the "print" advertising question is in the question itself. Print advertising is much more than just newspapers. It includes magazines, handouts, fliers, etc. We have seen the recent RealTalk debate regarding online fliers and whether or not they work. So, how about fliers on the For Sale sign? How about door hangers? Even dual sided business cards with your contact info on the front and your listing on the back. In a hot market, two sided cards don't work, sales come quickly. In a slow market, those listing-oriented business cards make perfect sense and are relatively inexpensive.

I totally agree that there is a major shift away from newspaper ads. I know several major newspapers have eliminated the real estate section entirely, including all the advertorial that runs in those sections. I was actually the Real Estate editor for a daily back in the day. A majority of the stuff was for new developments, obviously one of the weakest segments in this market. However, submitting informational-based columns directed towards consumers is still a great idea. Make yourself the local real estate expert. The first person a reporter will call when he or she has a question.

At the same time, I see Tarbell doing image advertising featuring their top agents on billboards. Of course, you have to separate broker advertising from agent advertising and the fact that every broker provides a different level of marketing support.

The fact remains that in this market you have to do something to distinguish yourself from the others. The question remains: how?

Rich Hudson
Director of PR/Marketing
InternetCrusade
(619) 283-7302 Ext. 602
Rich@InternetCrusade.com

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Monica Mcnamara Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Ocean City,  MD

Date: September 19, 2008

 

About 2 years ago one of the largest real estate companies in our area discontinued their print advertising with the largest newspaper in the area. I though it was a terrible move. Since then, I can see that it was just the opposite. They occasionally put a company ad in but we no longer see the full page one line ads for listings and open houses. Their savings had to have been enormous! It does not appear to have hurt them at all but, of course, I don't have access to their numbers. I myself have only put 1 ad in that same paper and I only did it because the property is a commercial one and I haven't had any showings. Now I tell my sellers up front not to expect very much, if any advertising in the local paper and they don't appear to have a problem with that as long as their listing will have strong internet presence. My one dilemma is open houses for which I feel I must run an ad. Has anyone held open houses using only the internet to advertise them? If so, what was the result?

 

I have not used print advertising in over a year, and I do not miss it, nor do I see any loss in business. I agressively utilize the internet and the sites I syndicate to.  I tell sellers up front that print advertising "Does Not Work".  On the occasion I do an open house, we post on our companies web site, which disseminates to www.openhouse.com and others.  Seems to  generate some traffic, albeit not the best traffic. Having said that about open houses, I do not see the value of my time sitting an open house. I talk to many people who waste my time, and if it's raining, leave their little grubby footprints on the carpet or flooring, who have no intention of buying anything.

Monica McNamara
Coldwell Banker
Ocean City Maryland
http://www.Ocean-CitySales.com
http://www.RealTown.com/MonicaMcNamara/blog 

877-480-7653 (SOLD)

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Carolyne L Licensed Real Estate Broker

Date: September 19, 2008

What You May not Know about Open Houses
(and why you should know this information)

http://www.carolyne.com/openhouse.html

This article is old news, but everything old is new again.
"Going where tomorrow is - hope to see you there." Carolyne

Proudly putting my name to my work for 28 years :
CAROLYNE Realty Corp. Real Estate Brokerage (1991)
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About 2 years ago one of the largest real estate companies in our area discontinued their print advertising with the largest newspaper in the area. I though it was a terrible move. Since then, I can see that it was just the opposite. They occasionally put a company ad in but we no longer see the full page one line ads for listings and open houses. Their savings had to have been enormous! It does not appear to have hurt them at all but, of course, I don't have access to their numbers. I myself have only put 1 ad in that same paper and I only did it because the property is a commercial one and I haven't had any showings. Now I tell my sellers up front not to expect very much, if any advertising in the local paper and they don't appear to have a problem with that as long as their listing will have strong internet presence. My one dilemma is open houses for which I feel I must run an ad. Has anyone held open houses using only the internet to advertise them? If so, what was the result?

I have not used print advertising in over a year, and I do not miss it, nor do I see any loss in business. I agressively utilize the internet and the sites I syndicate to. I tell sellers up front that print advertising "Does Not Work". On the occasion I do an open house, we post on our companies web site, which disseminates to www.openhouse.com and others. Seems to generate some traffic, albeit not the best traffic. Having said that about open houses, I do not see the value of my time sitting an open house. I talk to many people who waste my time, and if it's raining, leave their little grubby footprints on the carpet or flooring, who have no intention of buying anything.

Monica McNamara
Coldwell Banker
Ocean City Maryland
http://www.Ocean-CitySales.com
http://www.RealTown.com/MonicaMcNamara/blog

877-480-7653 (SOLD)

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