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Deede Wockenfuss Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Chandler,  AZ

Date: September 19, 2008

Barb Szabo asks,
Has anyone held open houses using only the internet to advertise them? If so, what was the result?
We ONLY do internet advertising for our Open Houses. I'm sure you have a good website. Just flag your open houses on line. You can also enter it into your MLS system, AND Realtor.Com. We have one Realtor in my own neighborhood who holds Open Houses EVERY Sat and Sun. He puts out about 20 signs with flags. This guy has almost ALL of the listings in the neighborhood, plus he sells a bunch of his own listings. He takes off on Wed and Thurs, leaving Fri to get ready for the weekend and Mon and Tues to work on his weekend business.
Personally, I just don't have that much energy anymore, but it certainly works for him!
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John Cleek Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Louisburg,  KS

Date: September 20, 2008

I totally agree that there is a major shift away from newspaper ads. I know several major newspapers have eliminated the real estate section entirely, including all the advertorial that runs in those sections. I was actually the Real Estate editor for a daily back in the day. A majority of the stuff was for new developments, obviously one of the weakest segments in this market. However, submitting informational-based columns directed towards consumers is still a great idea. Make yourself the local real estate expert. The first person a reporter will call when he or she has a question.

At the same time, I see Tarbell doing image advertising featuring their top agents on billboards. Of course, you have to separate broker advertising from agent advertising and the fact that every broker provides a different level of marketing support.

The fact remains that in this market you have to do something to distinguish yourself from the others. The question remains: how?


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There is no shortage of ways to spend money in the name of advertising. But advertising is simply one part of marketing and the purpose of marketing is to produce results -- increase sales. We can only do that by distinguishing ourselves from all the rest. Some people spend money on print media and it is a total waste of money because their ads look just like all the others. Some people spend money on direct mail but it is a waste of time because it is poorly done and goes to the wrong people. Others create websites that draw no traffic and produce no results while others create dynamic websites that show up above the fold on the first page of a google search and offer the client something to make them want to hang around long enough to be impressed with the agent enough to ask for help in their search.


My point is that the medium chosen is only one part of the equation. A total marketing program has a clear focus on the target market and the most cost-effective way of penetrating that market. What is YOUR niche? What makes you distinctive? Why should a buyer or seller contact you? What is your referral rate from previous clients? How often are you contacted as an expert source of information about the condition of the real estate market today?


It boils down to getting the most bang for the buck --- ROI.

John E Cleek, Ph.D., e-PRO,
Realtor� � The CrownPlatinum Team
Crown Realty of Kansas
Miami County - Linn County - Johnson County
1005 W. Amity � Louisburg, KS 66053
Pho: 913-709-4423 � Fax: 913-837-2549
Finding the RIGHT REALTOR . . . Priceless!


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Robert King Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Saint Petersburg,  FL

Date: September 20, 2008

 

Jim has an interesting Oxymoron here:
 "I for one, dropped just about all my print advertising. Not due to economics, but mainly because I was not seeing the return on the dollar and it was my most expensive advertising medium".

Wait a minute here JIM!  You are confusing all of us!  Your claim that your motive to change was NOT economically driven?  1) You were not selling! 2) You couldn't see a return on investment.  3) Print advertisement  was "most expensive'.  I would say you analyzed your situation properly, measured the results and came to the economical conclusion it DIDN’T PAYOFF. What part of your statement didn’t address ECONOMICS? Just curious, not trying to start a fight here. I am a firm believer in measuring the results of our actions. Apparently you agree, or you wouldn’t have made a change, but is it NOT all about ECONOMICS?  Is this NOT why we all huddle around the computer waiting for that prospect to pop up on our screen from some Lead Generator?  Isn't this why we have teams of agents ready willing to work that next lead?  People do and say desparate things in desparate times regardless of the evidence!

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Kathleen Rollins Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Tempe,  AZ

Date: September 20, 2008

Q: Has anyone held open houses using only the internet to advertise them? If so, what was the result?

Barb Szabo

Reply:  I also advertise on the internet to Open House.com, however, balloons and strategic placement of signs will bring those looking in the neighborhood. I have not seen a measurable difference in activity based on whether the Ad was posted or not, but I do track how people found me. Some will bring the Internet ad with them so it is easier to tell. I also change the MLS listing to advise of when the House is Open... That works even better when done at the same time as a Price Change. If they are looking on line, the price change will hit them first, and the OH comment brings them in. My print ads brought zero.

Do Open Houses sell homes? Yes, sometimes, but this is really an opportunity to pick up buyers & sellers. If I do not have anyone in my car, I will do an Open House, especially one that has a good track record of activity.  Some feel OH is a waste of time...  but if you use the time to work on your plan, read a new book on Real Estate or Marketing, write a blog, or update clients profiles... I get ahead for the week and it is better than sitting around whining.

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Robert Posner Licensed Real Estate Broker

Date: September 20, 2008

There are a lot of things that worked years ago prior to the breakthrough in technology that no longer work

I also dropped all print advertising for a lack of better return on my budgeted dollars. I also noticed many of the large national franchises in my area have done the same.

Floor time hardly ever works due to the fact a prospective buyer with a question of a property would prefer to find the answers on the internet rather than call the office.

As for sellers, there is no need for them to walk into the office anymore. Simply by checking the internet they find the value of their home and then compare Realtors on line to find a Realtor to work with.

I think a lot of great ideas can be gleaned from a discussion on the new marketing era and using the internet as a primary medium. I am just finishing up an e-pro course that has a lot of ideas to offer.

 

 

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Dan Powell Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Carmel,  IN

Date: September 20, 2008

Regarding advertising open houses online, I've had a fantastic response using craigslist.  I've paid for our local paper but the free stuff works best.  I place signs and post on the local free areas.  My biggest response is from signs, second is craigslist.

Cheers,

Dan

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Dan Powell Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Carmel,  IN

Date: September 20, 2008

“when market shifts, it seems the first thing people cut is their marketing. And, at a time when they need it the most.”
 
That’s definitely the Catch 22.  We agents do need a smart marketing plan, not necessarily an expensive one.  Marketing gets cut because of the expense and money just isn’t coming in like it was before.  The trick is to find those tools or systems that you can use for free and still do the same thing – or improve your business.
 
Check out Update Lane - www.updatelane.com.  It’s a “can be” free online paperless solution to listing and transaction management.  Allows agents to communicate with their clients everything that’s going on with the listing and collaborate with all parties involved.  You can manage the listing from time of list through to close.  Log marketing activities, schedule showings, edit/post feedback, track competing properties, and share documents.  For me, giving clients access to this information makes the “drop price” or “clean it up” talk easier – and that helps sell.  It’s about to launch.  Sign up early.
 
Cheers,
Dan
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Jeff Graves Real Estate Educator ,  Kihei,  HI

Date: September 20, 2008

Jill,

I agree that the internet has changed how agents conduct their business…and I've worked with agents who receive about 80% of their business from the internet. However, I know the best "long term" approach combines both internet and print media (direct mail). I've been in the real estate industry since 1983, long before Al Gore invented the Internet ;-), and work with agents all across the US - direct mail still works…when it is done right.

The problem is most agents mail the same type of information that was done 20 years ago.

Has the real estate market changed? Yes.

Have consumers changed? YES!

Learn how to create emotion and drive your audience to your website…and you'll reap more business.

I know a team of agents who did $57,000,000 in sales last year…more than 4x than the year before. They deal in high end properties and work with an incredible team that handles all their online and print marketing/advertising. Everything, website, blogs, posting listings, direct mail, etc.. I'm not sure what percentage of their business comes from their print media…but it's significant.

Jeff

Jeff Graves

www.ImpactYourSalesNow.com

Jill Haymore

September 18, 2008 5:46 PM

What a fabulous thread! I, too, have seen my business totally evolve in the last several years. I joined my husband in his 11+ year career back in 2002. At that time, we were already seeing a tremendous increase in our traffic from hits on internet sources.

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Dennis Vinegar Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Florence,  KY

Date: September 20, 2008

Jim Clauser says:

What about starting a discussion on marketing and ideas that work or don't work in today's market. Things have changed over the past year and what once worked, might not anymore.

I for one, dropped just about all my print advertising. Not due to economics, but mainly because I was not seeing the return on the dollar and it was my most expensive advertising medium.

Who's next?

Floor time does not work anymore. As soon as a prospective buyer sees a for sale sign, he/she checked it on the internet and does not call the office.

Sellers do not walk into a Real Estate office when they want to sell their home. They check the internet for the value of their home and also search the internet for a Realtor or talk to friends to here from them who they recommend.

RG

Glendora, CA 91741

Dennis Vinegar says:

I agree in part. Print advertisement is very expensive but that's where I am right now. Today I am attempting to print 4 up post cards from Microsoft Publisher. My problem is that the printer spits out the sheet before the two cards on the right side are fully printed. As a result, I lose about a quarter inch off the right side of two cards. Does anyone out there have any feedback concerning setting margins to the end of the sheet with Publisher?? I thought I'd check with you E-Pros before going to Microsoft.

Dennis L. Vinegar

Huff Realty, Florence, KY

859-512-4919

Email: dvinegar@huff.com

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Jason Tangen Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Waite Park,  MN

Date: September 20, 2008

Jim,

I commend you for taking the start and dropping your print media marketing efforts.  While it can be difficult to explain to some sellers (especially Baby Boomers who live for their morning newspaper), I have found that with a good Internet campaign most people are very comfortable not having newspaper or magazine ads.

With that in mind, one of my new favorite tools is a Postlets ad.  This is a great way to publish your listings to Google Base, Yahoo Classifieds, and other internet outlets with one shot.  Postlets also creates a flyer in HTML code for you to copy and paste in Craigslist.  This is much better than the standard form of entering listings with a couple of pictures and some verbage.  There are other companies that give HTML code for Craigslist like the Point2Agent system, Just Snooping and others, but note that some charge fees.

Why do I like the Craigslist ads?  A. I used one for a listing to highlight an open house I was holding a month ago.  I had 15 couples through the open house (6 off Craigslist) and the home sold to one of them the following week.

 

Jason Tangen, GRI - Broker Associate with Edina Realty in St Cloud MN

E-Mail: jason@stcloudedina.com

Blog: http://www.StCloudEdina.com/blog

 

 

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