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Robert King Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Saint Petersburg,  FL

Date: February 7, 2008

Interesting twist to the Truth or what is Perceived as the Truth.
 
"The way the media reported on this subject should almost be considered criminal".
 
You got that one right.  Howerever, the problem with the subprimers was that almost every Prime loan had a subprime loan attached to it, so the buyer didn't have to depend on an FHA INSURED loan (MIP payment).  It wasn't just the subprimers it was the Prime Lenders and HUD that allowed it to happen!  The Subprimers are just the scape goats!  The real villain here is HUD and the FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS!  the media doesn't even have a clue, they are going on what they are told to say.  If not HUD and or the FED. RES.... then why is HUD coming to the rescue of the new HUD purchaser and why is the Prime rate falling and why is the cost of petroleum rising?  The big winners here are HUD and the Banks making new loans while the Displaced Home Owners become Tent Dwellers!  Hmmmm.... I wonder if the Displaced Home Owners could be our next target market of buyers.  NA!  they'll just have to squat in a tent and be happy.
 
Robert King
Broker/Consultant
Charles Rutenberg, Realtors
Clearwater, Florida
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Ed Hain Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Walnut/Diamond Bar,  CA

Date: February 8, 2008

Linda,

The media was right when they reported that the housing bubble was poised to break.  Why are they wrong now to report as they do?  I think the thing we miss here is that journalists are not making this stuff up . Editorialists might, but not reporters.  Reporters are getting their information from credible sources. 

Best Regards,

Ed Hain

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Kris Coutant Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Hudson Falls,  NY

Date: February 9, 2008

Ed,

            I think the original post is from someone who perhaps is in a market similar to where I work. While there certainly was unprecedented growth in the last 5 years or so (unfortunately before I started) it was never on the scale of what some areas saw. And now we are not seeing prices plummeting, entire developments going into foreclosure etc.

            Yet if you were to read the local (only) small town USA paper, or watch the local (60 miles away in the capital of NY) news broadcasts you would think the entire country was going down for the third time. And as the general public only sees the picture the media is telling, that is what they believe is reality here in upstate NY.

            I think it then becomes our job to get the local media to report on the local market conditions. Yes you now need to actually have some cash to buy a house, and you need to have at least not a crappy credit score. Yes the prices are slightly less (again in my area) than a year ago. But even prices today are quite a bit higher than in 2002. Interest rates are down, inventory is up now is a great time to buy. I showed investment properties to 3 different people this week. Too bad that doesn’t make nearly the headline of FORECLOSURES ON THE RISE or REAL ESTATE MARKET FALLING.

            Anyhow the point I am trying to make- yet again real estate is local. And some areas are doing well, and some areas are really hurting. At least here the media is just running the national stories, which really don’t represent the entire country. They are showing the worst hit markets and making it seem like this is what the whole country is seeing.

            At least that’s my opinion –

            Kris Coutant

            Balfour Realty

            Serving Upstate NY – Warren, Washington

                        and Saratoga Counties

            kriscoutant@roadrunner.com

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Ed Hain Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Walnut/Diamond Bar,  CA

Date: February 9, 2008

Robert King wrote:   "The media doesn't even have a clue, they are going on what they are told to say."

Robert,

That is why newspeople are called reporters.  It isn't the media's job to fix the problems or right the wrongs.  It is to report the facts.  The facts are that we have a very, very depressed real estate market.  BTW, if organizations such as HUD make  statements, they should be reported.  If someone with credibile credentials has opposing opinion or fact and can back what they say, that, too should be reported.

Best Regards,

Ed Hain

 

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Janet Bartman Information Technology,  Spokane,  WA

Date: February 9, 2008

So true!  ----->"The national media loves to cover the fall of the real estate market and include such inspirational phrases such as "downward spiral" and "sinking values".

Here's how we are coping:  Following last week's local newspaper's sensational headline:  "NEW HOME SALES SINK"  (gasp!) our local Association has mobilized to write a weekly 500 word-article in the Real Estate section, about the local Real Estate market.  We are taking this "by the horns" as they say -- taking an active role to educate our region's home buying and home selling public at large on local issues and information.

 The headline of the first article that ran last Sunday, Feb 3 is "Perfect Market Conditions? Perhaps."  (Much better than NEW HOME SALES SINK!)

I took the lead for the first article as the Association Communications Director, but, going forward, we feel it is CRITICAL to position a message and photo by the President of our Association, with timely local market information coming from an experienced and active REALTOR® professional in a leadership role. 

The text of our 1st article is below, and if you wish to "massage" the local data and run with it, permissions are granted to my fellow RealTalk readers.

p.s.  Story ideas like this can be found on the NAR site, under News Media, Story Ideas:  http://www.realtor.org/press_room/index.html

 

Feb 3, 2008  
Perfect Market Conditions? Perhaps. 
Janet Bartman, Spokane Association of Realtors
 
 
A desire to own a home of their own and to establish a household are the reasons homeowners most often cite for purchasing a home, according to a recent consumer survey.

Thirty-three percent of all buyers, and a whopping 70 percent of first-time buyers, express these as prime motivators in their quest for a home purchase, according to the National Association of Realtors® (NAR) 2007 Profile of Home Buyers and Sellers.

A wish for a larger home, a job-related move, a change in family situation, a desire for a home in a better area and an interest in being closer to jobs, relatives, school or transit are also high on the list of reasons for purchasing a home.

Interestingly enough, taking advantage of perfect market conditions was not mentioned – not this year, not last year – not in NAR’s 26-year history of surveying buyers and sellers. 
 
The most important factor in buying or selling a home isn't what is going on nationally - it is what is going on in our local market. Evaluating the region’s present and future trends, as well as influences in area neighborhoods, are essential steps to creating long term wealth, whether you are in a buyer's or a seller's market.    
 
You might be wondering if buying a home right now is a smart financial decision.   The fact is, homeownership is key to building long-term wealth, no matter when someone buys. Studies show that, over time, most homeowners steadily build equity. According to NAR and the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, 60% of the average homeowner’s wealth comes from their home’s equity. Over time, your home can become the largest asset in your investment portfolio.
 
Experienced REALTORS® will tell you, “All Real Estate is Local.” Locally, the Inland Northwest has been discovered by newcomers leaving less affordable, less family-friendly areas, to join us as new neighbors in our neighborhoods. They bring their professional expertise, their civic participation, and their purchasing power with them to our local economy. And although home sales were down 11% in 2007 over 2006, there were approximately 7,000 homes purchased in the region, as reported at the end of the year by the Spokane Association of REALTORS®. The year 2007 was Spokane’s 5th best year ever in home sales, and approximately 7,000 local home buyers that knew “timing the market” would delay their biggest long term investment portfolio asset – owning a home.
 
Another well timed incentive is that Interest rates dropped by another half-point this past week. Local REALTORS® have the pleasure of seeing that the newly developing favorable interest rate climate may allow a buyer’s payment estimates to actually be lower and therefore more affordable in 2008, over higher closing estimates the buyer may have calculated in 2007, when rates were higher. Better industry-wide fixed rates in 2008 are a legitimate benefit for ready buyers. These replace the risky sub-prime mortgages that offered only short-term incentives that later burst the affordability bubble for homeowners with ARM adjustments that kept climbing.
 
If there are no perfect market conditions, what is the first step to home ownership or selling a home locally? After reading sensational national headlines, would-be local home buyers and sellers are encouraged to get the facts from a local REALTOR® professional. 
To refine your big picture goals and needs, sit down for coffee, ask for a current neighborhood market analysis, or attend a home ownership seminar. Even if you are planning homeownership off into the distant future, keep in touch with any of the 2,000 local REALTOR® professionals that are members of the Spokane Association of REALTORS®.   Consider them a valuable resource, because “All Real Estate is Local” and historically, purchasing a home has been a good long-term investment for families like yours.
 
# # #



Janet Bartman, Communications Director, e-PRO
Spokane Association of Realtors
SPOKANE "Near Nature, Near Perfect"
Janet@spokanerealtor.com
509-326-9222

 

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gbcosta@yahoo.com

Date: February 9, 2008

 
Anyhow the point I am trying to make- yet again real
estate is local. And some areas are doing well, and
some areas are really hurting. At least here the media
is just running the national stories, which really
don’t represent the entire country. They are showing
the worst hit markets and making it seem like this is
what the whole country is seeing.
At least that’s my opinion –
Kris Coutant

Kris, I agree with you. I live on the Eastern Shore
of MD in Talbot County, we too have have had a drop,
but our prices scored to the top to the point of being
unbelievable. Late year on one of my very best years.
I am with you the media needs to present the local not
not wrap the National market into its figures.

Glory Bee Costa ABR, CRS, GRI, E-PRO, SRES
410-310-9081-Cell
410-763-6001-Gen. Office
http://www.Maryland-WaterFront-Homes.com
E-Mail-Glory@GloryBeeCosta.com
Talbot, Queen Anne, Caroline & Dorchester MD
Re/Max Gold Realty, LLC- Easton, MD - Associate Broker

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Ed Hain Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Walnut/Diamond Bar,  CA

Date: February 9, 2008

Janet,

PERFECT!!!!!  Rather than crab about how the media doesn't get it, you actually used your knowledge and experience to write an article presenting the other side of today's real estate story.  CONGRATULATIONS!  The article is well-written and loaded with good information.

Best Regards,

Ed Hain

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BrucePaluzzi@comcast.net

Date: February 9, 2008

 

Anyhow the point I am trying to make- yet again real estate is local. And some areas are doing well, and some areas are really hurting. At least here the media is just running the national stories, which really don’t represent the entire country. They are showing the worst hit markets and making it seem like this is what the whole country is seeing.

 

 

Bruce Paluzzi Replies:   I live and work in South Bend, St. Joseph County,  Indiana, (Home of Notre Dame) a market that also has very slow but steady increases in home prices accompanied by either flat prices or very very minor drops if the national market softens.  Throughout 2007, I was one of those who got interviewed about the market for TV and stated that the dip has not hit our area and shouldn’t.  But I have seen in the last year, and am continuing to see, that the reports on the news are becoming a reality more and more. What I mean is that although there should be no effect on our market because of over-inflated markets, there really is an effect that is unfortunately getting more and more noticeable.  While we do have foreclosures coming on the market….we always have had them, but now because they are in the news so much, buyers are more aware of them.  The word foreclosure is so scary that it has a wide range of affects on the market that don’t seem logical…but are real.  Foreclosures are subject to the highest levels of property taxes in Indiana, much like rental properties, so the only way banks can sell them is to reduce the price. If someone buys a house after march 1st of 2007, they can get tax reductions (exemptions), but those exemptions do not “kick in” until 2008…and those 2008 taxes are not paid until 2009!   So it is hard for many buyers to qualify for a house payment unless those exemptions are in place.   So how do you sell such a house?  You reduce the price.  So the foreclosure homes must be dropped in price to sell, and the rental properties people are trying to sell off have to compete, so they drop their price…and consequently there is so much cheap real estate out there that the reductions in price are starting to “spread” into surrounding areas where there have not been decreases in value for years!  Now lets add in the less talked about mortgage factors which are the crazy-appraisers and underwriters.  Appraisers are getting hammered for being a part of the mortgage crises, so they are getting more and more conservative and are cutting appraisals left and right.  Underwriters, folks like you and me who don’t want to lose their jobs, are being much more picky in not only the qualification process, but in conditions that arise after a contract is signed. And the buyers out there are eating this stuff up.  In the last 8 months I have seen record-poor initial offers on home, due to buyers hearing the words “buyers market” repeated every day.  While we try to impress on them that a quality house is still going to get quality money…some agents are reporting making a bad offer, then moving on to the next one, because the buyer will wait and get the good deal they feel is out there for them.   When this happens, they eventually stumble upon an over-motivated sellers who delivers them the good deal…so the myth becomes reality. Now it is spreading and the sellers are getting into the game to show how “smart” they are.  They hear it is a bad market, so they lower their price, or at the very least they are accepting deals they never would have in 2005 or 2006.   But they need to move and don’t want their house sitting around for a long time, so they wheel and deal and get it sold.   Well…what do the 10 other houses in the neighborhood do when the neighbors house sold quickly, but at 5% under value?  They all drop their prices. (Some more quickly than others!)  I just sold a listing that would have sold for 185 to 190K. We went on the market in a subdivision with 7 other active and comparable homes that were all priced from 189 to 210.  My seller told me to tell all interested buyers that the wanted the house gone quickly, and would look at anything reasonable.  His neighbors homes have been sitting for 30 to as much as 140 days.  We had our first few showings and we got a 170K offer.  This is a horrible insult because the house is immaculate.   My seller countered at 175 and of course the buyers accepted.   I was floored (but didn’t argue).  But the seller is thrilled and will close on 2-28-08 while I’m sure some of the neighboring homes will be having summer-time open houses. 

 

So all I am saying to agents is that you can talk all you want to about your area…and claim the national market has no affect on your local market, but I assure you it is.   It’s better to be a realist, especially if you want to list successfully, because sellers need to be told that things aren’t all that bad everywhere…but that they aren’t all sunshine and roses either.  Sellers need to be aggressive because no matter what the sellers or their agents think….the buyers out there are the ones who set the market price, and nationwide they are convinced they are in the drivers seat.

 

Best Regards, Bruce Paluzzi   BrucePaluzzi@comcast.net   www.243-9999.com

 

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Robert King Licensed Real Estate Broker,  Saint Petersburg,  FL

Date: February 10, 2008

 
Media media media so what's the complaint
 
"I am with you the media needs to present the local not not wrap the National market into its figures".
 
So you are saying that Real Estate is LOCAL in nature and that the media is not.  I thought that's why we went IDX because Real Estate needs exposure Internationally.  So which is it Local or International?  After all we have IDX and that expands the market! Right?  So if we are going to migrate across the lines of localities then I think we better pay attention to news across localities.  The world is getting smaller not larger.
 
Robert King
Broker/Consultant
Charles Rutenberg, Realtors
Clearwater, Florida

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Chris Holmen Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Arlington,  TX

Date: February 10, 2008

where were these same complaints when the market was going haywire and
people were paying 50 or 60000.00 more for a property or no appraisals or no
inspections... just give me the house... or interest only loans... finally
caught up with all of this... now the piper has to be paid... this is
reality...

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