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Date: October 16, 2007, Number of Replies: 9

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Buddy Snipes Licensed Real Estate Agent, GA

Date: October 16, 2007

Hey Bill,

The upgrade is called Expression Web. It looks/feels/drives just like FrontPage only better.

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Bernard Gibbons Licensed Real Estate Agent, Danville, CA

Date: October 16, 2007

Front Page has been replaced by Microsoft Expression Web. You can upgrade from Front Page for $99. Their web site is here. It costs $299 for new users.

I played with the Beta version a while back. It is quite an interesting visual development environment. Potentialy a lot more powerful than Front Page (which I hated anyway).

All of my development is done in DreamWeaver. This is a tremendous product although rather more expensive. Very user friendly though and quite easy to learn at whatever level you want to take it.

Bernard G

Bernard Gibbons
Alain Pinel Realtors
588 San Ramon Valley Blvd
Danville, CA 94526

bernard@bernardgibbons.com
www.bernardgibbons.com

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Gene18

Date: October 16, 2007

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Front Page has been replaced by Microsoft Expression Web. You can upgrade from Front Page for $99. Their web site is here. It costs $299 for new users.

I played with the Beta version a while back. It is quite an interesting visual development environment. Potentialy a lot more powerful than Front Page (which I hated anyway).

All of my development is done in DreamWeaver. This is a tremendous product although rather more expensive. Very user friendly though and quite easy to learn at whatever level you want to take it.

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Microsoft Expression Web is a tremendous upgrade from FrontPage. It uses both CSS and DWTs competently and produces compliant code. Some users of both DreamWeaver and Expression Web say that it is a step up from DW. EW does have a steep learning curve for those unfamiliar with CSS or HTML, however.

I've rebuilt 4 sites with EW so far.

Gene Hahn, Realtor, ABR, e-PRO
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage
Bullhead City Arizona

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Caryn Webb

Date: October 17, 2007

I have used FrontPage from MicroSoft to develop a website. Having just purchased a new laptop running Vista Home Premium, I find that MS no longer offers FrontPage as a product. Anyone know what is the closest product? Thanks, BillD

Bill:

Are you planning on developing a web site or do you just want to update the site you now have.

If development is your goal then upgrade if that is what you are comfortable with. If you are open to trying something new...I have some ideas.

If you just want to update your site you can do it by downloading SeaMonkey. It is a free browser, editor from Mozilla. You can edit from the browser and save it back to the server. You just have to set up the FTP info for your server once. I am playing with it and it seems to work just fine! http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/releases/

Free web authoring Editor/Browser program - Open Source Amaya. It was developed by W3C.

Amaya is a Web editor, i.e. a tool used to create and update documents directly on the Web. Browsing features are seamlessly integrated with the editing and remote access features in a uniform environment. This follows the original vision of the Web as a space for collaboration and not just a one-way publishing medium.

This is worth looking at: http://www.w3.org/Amaya/ It is a web authoring Editor/Browser.

Caryn D. Webb ePRO Realtor® , Hillsborough NJ
CD WEBB DESIGN
Web, Print, Multimedia Marketing
and Administrative Services Designed for Real Estate
Web: http://CDWebbDesign.com
E-mail: Caryn@CDWebbDesign.com

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Robert Young

Date: October 18, 2007

I have used FrontPage from Microsoft to develop a website. Having just
purchased a new laptop running Vista Home Premium, I find that MS no longer
offers FrontPage as a product. Anyone know what is the closest product?
Thanks, BillD

Bill,

I have done my own website work for several years now and like you I have
depended mostly on FrontPage. I am frustrated over Microsoft's decision to
discontinue the FP product line, but I guess change is a necessary byproduct
of innovation.

I started familiarizing myself with Adobe Dreamweaver some time ago. I
haven't utilized it for my real estate sites yet but I have used it for
other sites that I have done. Although every web developer I speak with
raves about Dreamweaver, I don't find it to be nearly as intuitive as
FrontPage. No doubt the possibilities are endless with Dreamweaver but like
most Adobe programs, it is complicated and takes serious effort to learn.
That's alright if web development is your profession, but doesn't make much
sense if your primary concern is selling real estate.

Microsoft has a new web design product now called Expression Web:
http://www.microsoft.com/Expression/products/overview.aspx

There are actually several new products in the "Expression" line (Studio,
Web, Blend, Design, Media, Encoder, Etc). This appears to be Microsoft's
response to Adobe's line of design products which currently dominate the
market.

I have not used MS Expression Web yet, but I will check it out when I can
find some time. Until then, FrontPage will still work just fine.

Robert

Robert Young
Associate Broker, CRS, e-PRO, GRI
Five Star Midwest
616-248-0000 Direct Office
616-425-5050 Direct Fax
www.grhomebroker.com

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Keith Byrd, San Luis Obispo, CA

Date: October 18, 2007

Ø I have used FrontPage from Microsoft to develop a website. Having just
purchased a new laptop running Vista Home Premium, I find that MS no longer
offers FrontPage as a product. Anyone know what is the closest product?

Microsoft didn’t get rid of Front Page, they just renamed it Web Expression. You can get the upgrade price if you already own Front Page. I’ve been using Front Page since the initial version and still use it (ok, Web Expression now) for the majority of my sites. I did use Dreamweaver for a change to my home page on one of my sites since I plan to add flash video which WebExpression doesn’t handle well.

Keith Byrd

San Luis Obispo, CA

www.SloCountyHomes.com

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billdehlinger@usa.net

Date: October 18, 2007

The upgrade is called Expression Web. It looks/feels/drives just like FrontPage only better.

Thanks, I will absolutely give it a try. Thanks to the others who also responded.

Sincerely,

Bill Dehlinger
Real Estate Consultant
Land/Investments/Commercial Real Estate
Keller Williams Advantage Realty
1750 W. Broadway St.
Oviedo, FL 32765

Cell: 407-712-5166
Toll-free: 888-727-3249
Email: RealEstate@BillDehlinger.com
www.BillDehlinger.com

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Bob Elschlager Licensed Real Estate Agent, NV

Date: October 18, 2007

Very helpful thread. I too have used the product Front Page and was a bit unsettled to find MS dropping it. Perhaps any software product only makes money for so long and it gets increasingly uneconomical to just keep maintaining an existing product which is increasingly out of date, and increasingly complex in its range of features.

For a while I was experimenting with Yahoo's SiteBuildIt (free for their websites). It was wonderfully simple in some ways. But after a while I discovered the editing features were very restrictive. There may have been a separate editing package in Yahoo, but I didn't explore that avenue any further, and instead went back to my old existing version of FP.

The ideal would be a fast, easy, powerful, intuitive website building product that is oriented to real estate.

One person in this thread mentioned Adobe. For a while I was using an on-line adobe product to covert from word to pdf, for a monthly fee. I found its usage awkward, complex, and difficult.

Bob Elschlager
Liberty Realty
Las Vegas
RealTalk@abc-blue.com
Have a Great Day!

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Gene18

Date: October 19, 2007

One of the big differences between FrontPage and ExpressionWeb is that EW produces compliant code (something FP never did).

Having relied on the FrontPage WYSIWYG option since the inception of FP, I find myself working in code view more often than not in ExpressionWeb. Once you get the hang of it, css makes a lot of sense.

The two programs do have many similarities, but there are major differences as well..and most of the differences seem to be improvements.

Microsoft offers a free trial of Expression Web. I believe it's good for 60 days, but it's long enough to give you a feel for the program. Try it out.

Gene Hahn, Realtor, ABR, e-PRO
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage
Bullhead City Arizona

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I too have used the product Front Page and was a bit unsettled to find MS dropping it. Perhaps any software product only makes money for so long and it gets increasingly uneconomical to just keep maintaining an existing product which is increasingly out of date, and increasingly complex in its range of features.

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