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freds@sempre.com

Date: April 5, 2007

 
>>Lindy in Houston wrote in part:
>>I also have had a few non-American cars, before I knew any better..... but
ever since becoming aware of the lay-offs in Michigan many years ago, which
filled me with sadness and sympathy, I would never consider buying a car not
made in America and with an America company name on it..... (IOW, I don't
care that they build foreign cars here, I wouldn't buy them..... and I
wasn't real happy about some of our American companies putting foreign
motors in their cars either, so those are "out" too....).
Sure, buy a Toyota or a Honda or Benz, but only as a 2nd or 3rd car.... Main
car should be American. <<

I doubt that any car is entirely "made in America" in today's world. Even
the labeling required by American Automobile Labeling Act doesn't disclose
the percent of American content so it would seem difficult, if not
impossible, for one to determine what car has the most American content.
>From my reading, some "American" cars have less domestic (read Canadian/US)
content than some "foreign" cars.

49 CFR 583 Automobile Parts Content Labeling
<http://tinyurl.com/2b8wal>
"The purpose of this part is to aid potential purchasers in the selection of
new passenger motor vehicles by providing them with information about the
value of the U.S./Canadian and foreign parts content of each vehicle, the
countries of origin of the engine and transmission, and the site of the
vehicle's final assembly."

<http://www.ftc.gov/opp/jointvent/madeusa/ftp/usa/103.txt>
"[C]omments of the American Automobile Manufacturers Association (AAMA) in
response to the Federal Trade Commission's request for comment
regarding "Made in the USA" advertising claims (60 Fed. Reg. 53923, October
18, 1995)."

<http://tinyurl.com/2kzj2n>
DaimlerChrysler complicates the issue.

Fred
fsalzer@sempre.com
Poway, CA

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Date: April 5, 2007

--- Lindy in Houston wrote:

>>> Sure, buy a Toyota or a Honda or Benz, but only as
a 2nd or 3rd car.... Main car should be American. And
many customers DO notice stuff like that..... I only
ever had two clients actually make comments, and one
was quite reprimanding....  and that was my LAST
non-American. <<<

Why should the "main car be American"? Should the
client then also decide what clothes I wear, what I
eat, what movies I see, etc.?

No thanks. I drive what I want. I buy what I like. And
I buy what works for me. What works for me is German.

Regards,
John

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Kris Coutant Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Hudson Falls,  NY

Date: April 6, 2007

 
    As I have already noted, I have a Honda- and I love my Honda. I do try to buy American made products whenever possible. However I refuse to pay more for a lesser quality product. When US automakers can make a car that will go for 300k+ miles, and I can buy it for less than what I paid for my first house, I will be happy to consider it. Until then I will continue to drive my Honda.
    Maybe it is different here in the Northeast, as we don't have a lot of unionized (high paying/great benefits) jobs. Most people just care that I can get through the snow and mud...
    Just my opinion, and I am sure that many of you will disagree, sorry :(
 
    Kris Coutant
    Balfour Realty Inc
    Serving Upstate NY- Warren,
        Washington and Saratoga Counties
    kriscoutant@roadrunner.com
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Date: April 6, 2007

Kris Coutant wrote...

"As I have already noted, I have a Honda- and I love my Honda. I do try to buy American made products whenever possible. However I refuse to pay more for a lesser quality product. When US automakers can make a car that will go for 300k+ miles, and I can buy it for less than what I paid for my first house, I will be happy to consider it. Until then I will continue to drive my Honda.

    Maybe it is different here in the Northeast, as we don't have a lot of unionized (high paying/great benefits) jobs. Most people just care that I can get through the snow and mud..."

Nicely stated, Kris.  I totally agree with you.  I've been a proud Honda owner since 1992...first an Accord EX and now I'm on my 2nd CRV.  My next vehicle will be a Pilot which I'll probably get this summer.  My husband is a retired 30-year IBEW union worker who "came over" to Honda 3 years ago with the purchase of an Element.  He said that hands down it's the best vehicle he's ever owned and will gladly buy one again when he's ready for a change.  Our new Hondas will be purchased only when we're ready for a change because unlike the "American made" vehicles, the Hondas, Toyotas, etc. don't ever need repaired and they never seem to wear out.

I've been told by a number of ex-employees of GM, Ford, and Chrysler that part of the problem with the Big-3 automakers is the high cost of wages and benefits that the unions successfully negotiated.  Combine that with the sagging auto sales, is it a wonder they are in trouble?

It's not right to blame Honda, Toyota, etc. for knowing how to build a durable, fuel efficient vehicle.  Honda, Toyota, etc. "get it".  Until the time comes that the Big-3 automakers finally also "get it", I'll stick with buying Honda or Toyota.  I don't think it's right to berate those that drive something other than a big-3 vehicle for making a sensible purchase decision.  Financially Honda and Toyota fit my budget.  Over the last 8-10 years I've spent about $25-$50/year for oil changes and I haven't have any repair costs.  Can you Big-3 owners say the same?

It's interesting to me that the largest Chevy dealership in Indianapolis (may even be the largest in the state) also owns one of the 3 Honda dealerships in town.  These Chevy and Honda dealerships are not only owned by the same person (Penski) but they used to share the same lot until a few years ago when Honda got their own digs...now it's just around the corner from sister Chevy.

LyndaK INdy

Lynda King, ABR, ASP, CRS
RE/MAX at the Crossing, Indianapolis, IN
Lynda@sellingindy.com 
www.SellingIndy.com and www.IndyHomesOnline.com
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m_aloni@bellsouth.net

Date: April 6, 2007

 

No, with the “one, big village” concept, who can tell which part of a car was built where? Many car manufactures co-op with each other; Mercedes and Chrysler

are one company (not for long; Chrysler is up for sale)

 

Meir Aloni CRS, RECS & Team

http://www.WeSellBroward.com

FL

 

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Andrian Curshen Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Glen Rock,  NJ

Date: April 6, 2007

Perhaps if the American manufacturers made cars as good as the Japanese and European ones they wouldn’t be laying off so many workers. Accept it my friend. Ford, GM and Chrysler make lousy cars and failed to notice the trend towards smaller more fuel efficient cars. Americans are not stupid, why do you supposed they buy the foreign makes? Because they are superior. Toyota, Honda, Nissan etc., simply outsmarted the Detroit makers by a very simple policy. They improve their cars each year without fail and continue to give better and better value. If and when they get their act back together I’ll run, not walk, to the GM or Ford dealer (Chrysler may or may not remain an American co.) Anyhow the automobile industry is a worldwide thing. Parts in any car may come from 10 or 20 different countries.

Andy C.

Fred Salzer said:

>>Lindy in Houston wrote in part:<br>
>>I also have had a few non-American cars, before I knew any better..... but<br>
ever since becoming aware of the lay-offs in Michigan many years ago, which<br>
filled me with sadness and sympathy, I would never consider buying a car not<br>
made in America and with an America company name on it..... (IOW, I don't<br>
care that they build foreign cars here, I wouldn't buy them..... and I<br>
wasn't real happy about some of our American companies putting foreign<br>
motors in their cars either, so those are "out" too....).<br>
Sure2C buy a Toyota or a Honda or Benz, but only as a 2nd or 3rd car.... Main<br>
car should be American. <<<br><br>I doubt that any car is entirely "made in America" in today's world. Even<br>
the labeling required by American Automobile Labeling Act doesn't disclose<br>
the percent of American content so it would seem difficult, if not<br>
impossible, for one to determine what car has the most American content.<br>
>From my...

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Aruna Mettler,  E. Millstone,  NJ

Date: April 6, 2007

I finally began to see positive funds earned via Real
estate and want to buy a car that is slightly
impressive. I had my heart set on Benz. One our
friends talked me out of it and said a) The insurance
will be high esp. in NJ. Secondly buy and american
built car. I have benn looking at a sports convertible
Sebring by Chrysler. I agree that we have to stop
putting money in foreign markets and charity begins at
home.

Aruna Mettler
Barrood Real Estate
700 Easton Avenue
Someret, NJ 08873
amettler2002@yahoo.com
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Fred Salzer said:

Lindy in Houston wrote in part:
I also have had a few non-American cars, before I
knew any better..... but
ever since becoming aware of the lay-offs in Michigan
many years ago, which
filled me with sadness and sympathy, I would never
consider buying a car not
made in America and with an America company name on
it..... (IOW, I don't
care that they build foreign cars here, I wouldn't buy
them..... and I
wasn't real happy about some of our American companies
putting foreign
motors in their cars either, so those are "out"
too....).
Sure2C buy a Toyota or a Honda or Benz, but only as a
2nd or 3rd car.... Main
car should be American. I doubt that any car is
entirely "made in America" in today's world. Even
the labeling required by American Automobile Labeling
Act doesn't disclose
the percent of American content so it would seem
difficult, if not
impossible, for one to determine what car has the most
American content.
From my...

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dorte.engel@rmxtalk.com

Date: April 6, 2007

 

Dear Lindy,

If you look at the parts sourcing and manufacturing list of most cars, you will find that they are quite global products (see recent Consumer Reports). There are Toyotas built in the US & Chevys made in Mexico. The parts come from all over the world.

This reminds me of the sentiments surrounding the massive layoffs at Boeing in the 1970s. Out of the dust grew many companies, as varied as Microsoft and Baby Jogger. These have certainly contributed to our GDP and economical development in a positive way, despite the fact that many former Boeingites were laid off.

Don't remember, who said that it is the product, but it seems at least Chevy is starting to change their product line, designed as it happens by a group of Korean designers.

Sincerely, Dörte Engel one of the House-Angels @ RE/MAX Allegiance
serving the greater Annapolis, Baltimore, Washington, DC triangle
301-352-4100 (office), ePro@myHouseAngels.com

> Yeah Al, Halle-blankin-lullyah, I totally agree! If it's even close 
> to a toss-up, buy American. I also have had a few non-American cars, 
> before I knew any better..... but ever since becoming aware of the 
> lay-offs in Michigan many years ago, which filled me with sadness 
> and sympathy, I would never consider buying a car not made in 
> America and with an America company name on it..... (IOW, I don't 
> care that they build foreign cars here, I wouldn't buy them..... and 
> I wasn't real happy about some of our American companies putting 
> foreign motors in their cars either, so those are "out" 
> too....).Sure, buy a Toyota or a Honda or Benz, but only as a 2nd or 
> 3rd car.... Main car should be American.And many customers DO notice 
> stuff like that..... I only ever had two clients actually make 
> comments, and one was quite reprimanding.... and that was my LAST 
> non-American car.Lindy in Houston
>
>

----- End message from tx-lindy@houston.rr.com -----

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Al Napier Licensed Real Estate Broker,  CT

Date: April 6, 2007

>>>Over the last 8-10 years I've spent about $25-$50/year for oil changes and I haven't have any repair costs.  Can you Big-3 owners say the same?>>>
 
 
Yes.  My American name badge cars & trucks have been trouble free for years.............
 
Al in CT, JIM
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Ronny Geenen Licensed Real Estate Agent,  Glendora,  CA

Date: April 6, 2007

Lindy,
That is funny. My first car is a Benz and my second is also a Benz.
I never received any negative comments. Maybe they think it belongs to me.
I mean, when they listen to my english, they hear my european accent, I guess.
Ronny Geenen - Southland Properties
211 N Glendora Ave, Glendora, CA 91741
Http://CaFoothillsRealEstate.com
Mailto:Ronny@RonnyGeenen.com
Cell: 626-278-2205
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