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Short Sales Created by: Pam Gibbs, Licensed Real Estate Agent, Eads, TN Date: Oct 5, 2007, Number of Replies: 32 |
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Has anyone had a lot of experience with short sales?
Posted by: Shirley Finnorn Licensed Real Estate Agent, AL
Date: Oct 18, 2007
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Pam,
I've done two, and they aren't hard to do, you just basically do what the mortgage company tells you to do (what else is new there). One someone told me about and I had a buyer looking for a house at the time - so it fell in my lap. The other was a house I listed and the owner failed to mention that he wasn't making payments. He owed so much with interest and late fees we HAD to do a short sale. The mortgage company was very co-operative. Win-win situation. The loss mitigation department will walk you through it. Rule #1 - the seller walks out of closing without one dime. The mortgage company pays the Realtors. The seller has to fully co-operate, including a letter and maybe documents stating why he wasn't able to make his payments, and the mortgage company has to accept his reason. I could go on and on, but it's pretty easy really.
I've done two, and they aren't hard to do, you just basically do what the
mortgage company tells you to do (what else is new there).
I find short sales to be time eaters because it is difficult to contact the
person in charge of the package, 72 hours to respond (from each decision
maker in the mix) and then after all the constant monitoring the commissions
are renegotiated. So in the end, time lost also includes dollars shrunk.
Short sales is a loss-loss for all participants, except the patient buyer.
Rose
Rosalyn Franke Traylor
Preston Hollow Realty
Dallas, TX 75220
214-351-0766
Broker
Posted by: wallystokes@cbgundaker.com
Date: Oct 23, 2007
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I've done several short sales this year & I have a question. I've followed up w/my broker, local board, state senator & finally to the writers of an article in Realtor Mag, regarding the Phantom Tax. This is the tax on the difference between what the seller owed on the loan, & what the home sold for. At the end of the year they receive a 1099 since this is reflected as income, & they have to pay tax on it. The last I heard, the bill introduced by the realtor lobby to eliminate this law, passed congress by a huge margin, something like 387 to 27. Now it's on to the senate. Or, so I've heard. Has anyone heard any other news regarding this & if it passes in '08, will it be retro-active for those '07 sellers? Any info would be helpful.
Wally Stokes
Coldwell Banker Gundaker
St. Louis, Mo.
I agree with Rosalyn...It is very time-consuming. It is all going to depend on how helpful the mortgage company is......Some are easy to work with and some are not. I am in the middle of the "not" right now. We have had a contract for a month waiting on them to sign off and the seller got a notification this weekend of the posting in the local newspapers for the foreclosure.....Of course, no response from the bank. And the seller is freaking out because she doesn't want her name in the paper.
Pam,
I have had plenty of experience. Short sales are easy to do, or should I say are as good as the agent presenting the offer. Communication and clean paperwork is the key.
Posted by: fritchie@kw.com
Date: Nov 7, 2007
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I have a new listing that may be a possible short sale. The lenders are sending the owners paperwork this week. I'm not sure what to expect and would like some helpful tips to make it go as smooth as possible for my sellers.
Thanks for any advise,
Brenda Fritchie
Keller Williams Realty
Springfield, Mo
Short sales are difficult but my suggestion is before you list for a short sale get with the lender and get all the paper work done before you list. The bank takes at least 3 to 4 weeks before it gets back to you and if you list first you have all the people who are wanting the property waiting. You can lose a sale because of the wait.
Posted by: G e e n a Becker Licensed Real Estate Agent, Avon, CT
Date: Nov 12, 2007
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Short sales are difficult but my suggestion is before you list for a short sale get with the lender and get all the paper work done before you list. The bank takes at least 3 to 4 weeks before it gets back to you and if you list first you have all the people who are wanting the property waiting. You can lose a sale because of the wait.
I totally disagree. I do short sales and I get the listing and the paperwork all in the same sitting. I prepare my co-broking agents when they show the property that it might take 3 to 4 weeks to negotiate out. Buyers that are buying SS’s are looking for a good buy so 99% of the time they will wait.
Posted by: Pat Baker, Palmetto, FL
Date: Nov 13, 2007
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I have been doing short sales with an attorney. He does all the work, I bring the client, they do all the paperwork, while I am out selling more homes. Since our licenses are not supposed to do legal work, I can't think of anything more legal than breaking contract and a promissary note. Yes it takes time, but the buyer has to have patience
Patricia Baker
Leslie Wells Realty
Parrish, Florida
(Sarasota, Manatee)
PatBakerSellsFlorida.com
pat@PatBakerSellsFlorida.com
941-727-7345
fax 941-527-1250
Posted by: sonia@sonia-bravo.com
Date: Nov 14, 2007
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Does any one know how much the bank (in terms of percent) are willing to lose from the original loan? I had a short sale with 3 offers presented to the bank, with all the paper work done. After all the wait (35 days) they told me that the offers where too low compared to the appraiser. Final results, I lost my sale, the home is not in MLS any more and is going to Foreclosure. Did they do the best decision?
Sonia Bravo
Posted by: Pat Baker, Palmetto, FL
Date: Nov 19, 2007
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I had a short sale counter off from the bank after the appraisal, and then the buyer countered and then the bank countered and then the buyer said no I'll stick with my first counter and the bank took it. So the lesson learned, don't be afraid to counter the bank's offer.
Patricia Baker
Leslie Wells Realty
Parrish, Florida
(Sarasota, Manatee)
http://www.PatBakerSellsFlorida.com
mail to: pat@PatBakerSellsFlorida.com
941-727-7345
fax 941-527-1250
Posted by: Lillianne Mida Licensed Real Estate Broker, TX
Date: Nov 19, 2007
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I totally disagree. I do short sales and I get the listing and the paperwork all in the same sitting. I prepare my co-broking agents when they show the property that it might take 3 to 4 weeks to negotiate out. Buyers that are buying SSs are looking for a good buy so 99% of the time they will wait.
I agree with doing everithing at once... if buyers are not willing to wait they are not the perfect candidate for a Short Sale... Very few people decide to move on... ususally those where their agent does not clarify in advance.
Posted by: Christina Ethridge Licensed Real Estate Agent, Post Falls, ID
Date: Nov 19, 2007
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It’s not a matter of agreeing/disagreeing, this is how the banks work. You can list the property – for a slightly below market value – the banks want to see the property on the market for 30+ days – you can gather all of the information they require aside from the offer (such as sellers financial records, letter of insolvency, etc) but you can not submit an offer with a preliminary HUD1 UNTIL YOU HAVE AN OFFER. This is the part that takes 30 or so days. “Getting with the lender” is only possible up to a point – again, they will not consider a price until they have an offer in hand, with a preliminary HUD1 and comps. We have lost a sale because the banks have taken so long to even get to looking at the offer – and there isn’t a thing you can do about that. Calling them twice a day, every single day – bugs them yes, but doesn’t seem to speed up the process.
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Short sales are difficult but my suggestion is before you list for a short sale get with the lender and get all the paper work done before you list. The bank takes at least 3 to 4 weeks before it gets back to you and if you list first you have all the people who are wanting the property waiting. You can lose a sale because of the wait.
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I totally disagree. I do short sales and I get the listing and the paperwork all in the same sitting. I prepare my co-broking agents when they show the property that it might take 3 to 4 weeks to negotiate out. Buyers that are buying SS’s are looking for a good buy so 99% of the time they will wait.
Posted by: pab@fifthamendment.com
Date: Nov 19, 2007
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Hello All, I am a real estate attorney in Sarasota Florida and I have had a great deal of experience especially lately with short sales. I found that a year ago they were far easier than they are not as easily negotiated now. Of course that all depends upon the lender and their particular set of circumstances during the negotiation. The seller should NOT already be in default before applying for a short sale and a real estate attorney should ALWAYS be consulted, if not handling the negotiation. To be successful at it, you have toi know the proper motivations for each party to participate in the negotiation, have established contacts with the lender and a good track record with the lender. If you would like more information please write.
Paul Blucher, Esquire
Law Offices of Paul A. Blucher, P.A.
7300 Delainey Court
Sarasota, Florida 34240
Eminent Domain & Real Estate Transactions
pab@fifthamendment.com