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April 24 Snow Removal

Apr. 26, 2007
Below is an e-mail that Jeff has been forwarding out to those individuals inquiring about snow removal on the sidewalks within the Townhomes at Red Hawk HOA.  We wanted to ensure that all of those that were interested had access.
I have been discussing snow removal with the Board, and the consensus was to let Nature handle it.  The Board has been under growing pressure to limit Association spending in an attempt to limit the need for future assessment increases.  Consequently and after reviewing the weather forecast, the decision was made to let Mother Nature handle the snow removal.
 
While we may have received a foot of snow over the last 24 hours, today’s forecast is for clear weather in the 50’s, 60’s tomorrow, and climbing into the 70’s and 80’s yet this week.  While the snow we’ve received may be inconvenient, it will melt very quickly.  To elaborate on this further:
 
  • The snow is wet and heavy requiring hand-shoveling
  • Hand-shoveling is very expensive and time-consuming
  • Nature will likely melt the snow as quickly as hand-shoveling
  • The community just experienced a rise in monthly dues
  • Using community monies to shovel what nature will resolve in about the same time would be wasteful
  • The Board and A Vantage Properties are interested in minimizing the necessity to raise dues in the future
 
While we anticipated receiving responses from unhappy owners who wanted to see someone shoveling, the Board is looking to minimize expenses where Nature will resolve the issue as fast as many men shoveling.  I appreciate your input, and hope you understand the Board’s decision.
 
Have a wonderful week - Jeff

More on Ice Damming

Feb. 2, 2007
Tagged with: cold weather, costs, ice dams, roof
Since the snow began falling on December 20th, 2006, A Vantage Properties, the HOA Management company for The Townhomes at Red Hawk has received a limited number of owner concerns involving water leaks into their homes.  While it is difficult to inspect roofs while it is as cold and snowy as it has been, the Association is proceeding with inspecting the roofs of these owners to establish whether there is indeed an issue with the “shell” of the home, or if there is something else to blame.
This morning I was speaking to Academy Roofing who will be inspecting the roofs of these homes with "concerns".  Almost without fail the leading cause of roof concerns as observed by Academy Roofing is the result of 1 issue: ice damming!
I asked for a description of ice damming from Academy Roofing and how it occurs.  The first thing I was told was that many people have a difficult time understanding what ice damming is and what causes it.  The simplest explanation they provided me began with a water bottle.  Imagine taking a full bottle of water and leaving it in the freezer over night.  What happens?  The water freezes, balloons the bottle, and often times will either rupture the bottle or force the cap off.  This is similar to what happens with ice damming.
Since the snows began in December, our community has been “in the freezer.”  We’ve had a few days where it’s warmed up, but, ultimately, we’ve had several weeks of the deep freeze, which is very unusual for Colorado.  People that have lived in Colorado all their life has stated they've never seen this before in their 30+ years.  During the day the roofs warm up and snow begins to melt.  This runoff hits the edge of the roof, cools, and freezes.  Each day this process continues, and each day the ice dams grow.  What’s interesting is that much of the fresh run off each day works its way “under” the ice at the edge of the roof, and as it freezes it has no place to go.  Consequently, the fresh ice “forces” the existing ice dam up and, additionally, forces water underneath the shingles and roofing materials.
Academy Roofing has seen the damage caused by the sheer force of the ice driving water up and under the shingles.  From what they’ve seen, these roofs have failed to keep the water out, not because of a lack of design or failure to construct the roof correctly, but from the force that nature is creating.  Academy Roofing further advised they have seen ice dams as thick as 18-24 inches in depth, and the ice dams are continuing to grow as the cold snap Colorado has experienced for the last 5 weeks continues. 
So, how cold and snowy has it been?  Based off of the National Weather Service website, here’s what we’re looking at:
                                                                                     December – 2006                                                          January - 2007
                                                            Actual               Average            Departure                      Actual               Average            Departure
 
            Snowfall:                                  59.4”                 8.7”                   +50.7”                           15.9”                 7.7”                   +8.2”
            Average Temperature:                51.7 F               50.2 F               +1.5 F                           20.8 F               29.2 F               -8.4 F
What we see from this information is that for the 2-month period for December 2006 and January 2007, the Denver area accumulated 75.3” of snow, 58.9” more than average for these months.  At the same time, we see the average temperature during January 2007 is 8.4 degrees colder than average, and staying below freezing.  Consequently, Nature has been unusually cold and snowy, leading to conditions not seen in Colorado for a very long time, indeed. 
What can be done to prevent ice damming?  Better yet, what should the Association do to help the community?  If money were unlimited, each building could be fitted with heating cables at the edges of the roofs, in the gutters, and in the downspouts.  However, the community does not have the financial ability to pay for these huge capital improvements.  And why should the Association pay for these improvements?  After all, building and outfitting of homes for a winter such as we’ve experienced so far this year that only comes once in 25, 50, or even 100 years isn’t reasonable, practical, or a prudent use of HOA funds.
If you haven’t already done so, please read, “City ready for a thaw as icy public lays it on thick,” page 5B of the Denver Post on Thursday, February 1, 2007.  This story describes Denver’s issue with clearing the streets, the financial burden they’re under, and how unrealistic it is for the city to buy enough snow plows and employ enough workers to clear the snow to satisfy the public.  Their cost for a snow season that comes once in 25, 50, or 100 years is too much to justify the cost to their constituents.  Similarly, the cost to fit each home in the Townhomes at Red Hawk HOA is too much.  Sometimes we just have to take what nature throws at us and just find a way to cope with the consequences of nature.
- Stay Warm - Jeff Frenzel

Snow Removal Equipment

Jan. 25, 2007

We've been receiving some calls and e-mails in regards to the "bobcat" that is located at the community.  DCM&R is the snow removal contractor for the community and have found with the large amount of snow that the community has been receiving over the last 5 weekends (weekend 6 of snow fall is approaching) they have found that leaving the "bobcat" at the community allows them to better serve the community in snow removal.  When snow gets too deep, they are unable to pull the trailer that the "bobcat" rides on from community to community, thus requiring some communities to miss out on the snow clearing capabilities.  Without the "bobcat", snow removal costs increase as more hand shoveling is required.

Yes, parking in the community is a premium when those in the community do not utilize their garages for parking and a "bobcat" parked within the community takes up one of those spaces.  The question though should be, is the community willing to pay more for snow removal if the "bobcat" is not at the community and accessible freeing up one parking space, or is it better for the community to have the "bobcat" at the community to help with all the snow removal?

 

Snow Removal Costs

Jan. 22, 2007

Can we say that snow is expensive?  It's great for the high country and bringing dollars into the state of Colorado for recreation but when it comes in big doses to the Front Range of Colorado it brings high costs and declarations of "State of Emergency" to allow for federal dollars to aid in the cost of removal.

Between December 18, 2006 and January 8, 2007 the Colorado Department of Transportation has spent $7.1 million dollars on snow removal for the front range and eastern plains and that number is expected to grow as the bills finish coming in. 

 

Here are some comparisons:

Denver proper (not the suburbs) has spent $3.7 million for the same time period. 

The Townhomes at Red Hawk has spent $19,935 for snow removal during the snows between December 18, 2006 and January 8, 2007 over the 17 acres within the community.  To help the community if any large snows fall, the snow removal company the community is under contract with is leaving a CAT within the community as it is impossible to bring it to the community on a trailer with large snows.

Some HOA's are pulling money from reserves to pay for snow removal.  Others are looking at special assessments (a "one time" charge) to cover the snow removal expenses.  While other communities are finding that they do not have the funds in any of their accounts (operating or reserves) and that the homeowners will not authorize a special assessment to cover the snow removal expenses. 

 

I'm sure everyone in the Denver Metro area is hoping that the snow will slow down.  Yes, the moisture will be good for our water reserves and the plants but where can all of the snow piles go?  I know that my mom that lives downstream between the North Platte and South Platte river is going to make sure that her flood insurance will cover everything when the snow begins to melt.

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