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I saw a post from a company called NetBiz.com that guarantees placement on the first page for certain search terms. I got a call from them probably about a year ago and gave me a major search term for my area. However, after I had paid the fees to get everything going, I did not appear under that search term. Instead it was under another search term that I believed would
never get any business. Called and said they were sorry that I misunderstood the term that I would be listed with. However the gentleman said I will definitely get lots of action under the search term they gave me. I watched my statistics over a few months and never got one hit. Personally I would be very careful of this and other SEO companies.
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Nov. 7, 2007 |
| Posted by SEO who knows |
Given the right understanding, SEO companies are a great advertising tool. As with any company, there are the bad apples.
Netbiz.com however is not one of those companies. We DO NOT guarantee leads, we guarantee exposer. Like any form of advertising, just because your advertising does not mean that you will get results. 80 % of home buyers look online. What better place to have your advertising dollars?! We offer 1st page placement at a set monthly fee. We even have tracking tools now you can use to see the progress your phrase is making. The prices of course range depending on how much exposer you want to receive. It's the people who expect 50,000 people to click on their website, who want to pay $25 a month. Think about it, if 50,000 people click on your site, and you sell even 3 houses, how much commission did you just make? Selling even one house a year off of this form of advertising is MORE then paying for itself.
Understand the advertising you are choosing before you choose. Don't be afraid to ask questions. I think you will find that this kind of exposer is well worth the time and money. |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Nov. 8, 2007 |
| Posted by Jeffery |
This is honestly the dumbest thing i have ever heard. Do you even know
how much clicks cost? I mean on average about a dollar and multiply
that x50K and see if you aren't getting what you are paying for. Seems
like there are just plenty of cheap people out there and expect the
world from a company that is just offering you placement. There is no
way they can control how many people click on your site. I mean
honestly do you think they are genies? Honestly do you expect to drive
a lamborgini for the price of a pinto? |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Jan. 18, 2008 |
| Posted by SEO who knows |
That was my point Jeffrey. Maybe you misread what I wrote? Clients expect to get all these clicks but don't want to pay the price. You can't pay $25 for ANY kind of advertising and get good results. This is a form of advertising, SEO companies offer you the opportunity to have first page placement at a, more often then not, set monthly fee. And the SEO takes care of keeping you up there. where as if you were to do your own placement, you would have to be on your computer every hour on the hour bidding.
This can be VERY beneficial to someone who is currently being advertised on the 10 or 12 page of over 400 pages. Do you really think someone searching on yahoo/google is going to go through 10 pages of advertising if they can find what they want on the first page? |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Mar. 28, 2008 |
| Posted by Mike |
That is so funny, this companies Netbiz doesn't even do SEO the offer SEP. I was with them for over 6 months and couldn't get a "Traffic Report" Talk about SCAM. Their business model is to offer you a Keyword that isn't a Broad Match or Phrase.....it's an exact match. We all know that the doesn't work unless the exact phrase is typed in and then they hope you never look at your credit card statement again. Have you even seen their websites? SEO company...ha! They don't even put Meta Keywords in clients sites. Total cash cow that only is in business to help themselves. Lets face it this is a results driven business. I'd love to know what their retention rate is on clients. I know for a fact that it is terrible with their employees. Every time I called my reps number a new name was sitting in that desk. Also the reason for a flat rate is when you get 5 clicks on that "Great Phrase" it cost them $5 & you $50.
There are good SEO/SEP companies out there. I finally found one.
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - May. 2, 2008 |
| Posted by The One |
| I always find it funny that people who spend so much money sending mailers and digging holes for posts can't see the importance and the exposure you can get through Internet marketing. Yeah you can pay per click and set up an unlimited budget then sure you may get placed 24/7 on some broad matched searches and spend quadruple what a placement company can do it for. The time and effort that placement companies such as NetBiz go through to provide an ethical and reliable service for their clients is amazing. Of course your phone won't ring off the hook on a 50 dollar placement but look at Realtor.com. You sign up for a year and pay a ridiculous amount to be featured only when you have listings. You can gain listings with placement on Google/Yahoo. The generation of people in front of you buying homes and searching for that right Realtor don't wait for your mailer, they throw it away it is called littering. They look for someone that understands that the Internet is taking over all print marketing. Don't get me wrong, people hear what they want to hear when they are on the phone talking about a new marketing strategy. The problem is Realtors don't get that people search for Homes, Property and Realtors differently. The search does not always sound the best but it could have the most performance. You can't do what these companies do by yourself and if you can where is your time to actually sell those homes? Spend 1000.00 with this company and let them build a campaign for you. If anything use the placement at your listing appointments and show your clients that unlike the last Realtor that walked through their door you understand the value of featuring their home on Google/Yahoo 24 hours a day nation wide. Also, make sure you have a quality site with enough lead capture forms, you can have your agent page on Google all day long but once that "client" uses your MLS the company and most likely another agent will probably gain that lead. Money spent on the Internet will pay off just have realistic ideas on how well it will work with your site and how much your budget will be. Be the TRUMP when it comes to Real Estate in your area and don't sign contracts, if things don't work for you leave yourself an option to change things. Make your name seen. I never had faith in thee products but I kept uping my budget with them and now I call my Sales Rep, Ms. Mulligan, to change things around and work with the market as it changes instead of forgetting what that charge was on my credit card every month. |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - May. 15, 2008 |
| Posted by shirley smallwood |
HI I got a call from netbiz and it sounded pretty legitimate to me. I use a company called IPAssociates and it has done really well for me in putting me up on the first page under certain phrases. hopefully you can call them and get some placement with him. I am still considering netbiz. I am very leary of new things and Kelly at IPAssociates is an honest guy, just a young guy who started this company and it works. I have had wonderful results for my website since starting to use this company. if anyone has any questions give me a call, I can give you Kelly's info, email and phone numbers and links or you can just type it in. Ask for Kelly he is the owner , he started the business. thanks, Shirley Smallwood and good luck
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Jun. 10, 2008 |
| Posted by Dennis |
i have been checking, since i was talking to an agent a at &t . she was looking up my info. on google search under pest control services. she could not find me. yet that is the listing i am under. i checked it on my computer and sure it was there. i don't know how she missed it.
then tonight i checked for it on my wifes computer. i went though 4 pages and i could not find it . now i am having my son check tomorrow on his computer. yet at this time i do not understand how it shows up only on my computer. hummm. funny thing huh? i think perhaps it may be only on my search on my own computer.
so i will contact netbiz.com tomorrow and inquire about this. i think i have been scam. bait and switch. if is not true i will let you know if it is true then you will not here from me. i will instead be going afer them and get my money back. and i will as i do know how to do that. i have had a couple of problems in the past and i did get my money back.
oh well if you do have any thing of interest to say i will read it. if you have any remarks which are a wast of my time i will not. but i believe any one thinking about doing business with them should think twice about it. and if you think you might do business with them any way . think very hard again. don't get burned. |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Jul. 8, 2008 |
| Posted by J. Sue Atemps |
| I can't believe I almost fell for this obvious scam. I spent 20 minutes on the phone with their rep, and at no point was he able to explain to me how his company could sell Google adwords for 1/10 the cost of purchasing them directly from Google. I became suspicious when I visited the netbiz web site and found no information about Netbiz's SEO placement services or about their purported relationship with Google (although they use the Google logo on their letterhead). During the call, the rep variously identified himself as a realtor, and then as a minister, and claimed to have an incoming call from a competitor that he put on hold in order to seal the deal with me. It's appears to be a classic boiler room scam based on collecting the $79 setup fee, and maybe more if the purchaser forgets to cancel the credit card billing after 30 days. |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Jul. 28, 2008 |
| Posted by A "sales rep" |
First of all, Netbiz.com is NOT AN SEO company, so please people. Stop calling it that. SEO is Search Engine Optimization. Netbiz does SEP, placement. Optimization tries to "rank" you in the organic listings, which there is NO guarantee, so if you think there is a "better" SEO company, you might want to change just one letter and you'll actually get a guarantee.
There are some sales reps who are very reputable and honest, and then there are other reps, that have a different style of selling, tough, quick and rude. I am not one of them. I can't stand those people myself, so I strive to be respectful and patient.
As for the pest control guy, he was probably on a regional phrase, meaning, only the people in his area will show up. As long as his wifes computer is in one of the cities on his regional city list he will show up.
Our retention rate is extremely high, and for those few people who cancel, it is 99% likely, that they didn't actually listen to what they were being offered, they are expecting a whale for a penny, or they retired.
Netbiz is actually very responsible. We are a certified company of Google, and if you go to the website, you can see that we are Adwords certified, click on the link and it will take you to a google.com page that they created for us to show that we are certified by them. Several employees have done exstensive testing which allows us that branding.
We don't have a contract, so you're not locked into a "scam"
Check out any other placement company, or SEO. They usually have a 3 month minimum.
The sales reps don't actually do the placement. There is a department, where people come in earlier than 7am, and stay later then 5pm. All they do is manage accounts. So your rep PROBABLY really does not know the technicalities of it.
And honestly, if you're expecting a "great phrase" for $50 a month. Reconsider. $50 is the minimum Google will do, and normally there is a bare minimum of searches. I have a question to the people who are in real estate and sign up on the $50 phrases, or especially ask if you can try it for a month for free. --Would you let me live in a house that you have listed, for free, just so I can try it out? |
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RE: actualizestudio.com and SEO - Aug. 6, 2008 |
| Posted by Ian |
| As an organic SEO company, SEP is a good way to start marketing your site. As with SEO, you can't expect results if you do not have "Calls to Actions". When a potential lead comes to your site, what do they do? Are there forms or questionars that garner you there information for follow up or do you expect them to just say great, let me call you now. There are way to many competing companies and the agressive ones get the jobs. SEO and SEP are tools to help garner leads, but remember it's your job to close the deal! See www.actualizestudio.com for more information on SEO, Web Design, and traditional marketing! |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEP - Oct. 31, 2008 |
| Posted by Doris, a Netbiz customer |
I own a small business that I had been trying for a heck of a long time to take National. I had no idea what to do or even the first thing I should try. I received a call from a Netbiz rep. She clearly explained to me what their company offered, what they could deliver (24/7 exposure on the first page; they could not deliver clicks), and I placed myself on a regional and a national search phrase. Well, I didn't get a lot of search traffic on my National phrase so I asked to switch to a better one. They did it within days and I have been with them for over 6 months.
People, I did my research to understand the difference between SEO and SEP. I did my research on Netbiz and their Google link does go to Google.com, it just happens to be a link on the Netbiz website. SEO would work well for people who want their businesses to show up organically, but I wanted my website link to show up all the time on the first pages of my choice.
I mean really, you people want something for nothing. If you are real business people like I am, and understand how to risk your marketing dollars, you would understand that being on the first page of Google and have people see you there all the time is worth the monthly fee. I've actually had good results with Netbiz. I even had my rep make suggestions to spruce up my website, which I did by myself to save money, and it is more crisp and provides the clarity I think my potential customers are now drawn to.
So, for those of you cheapies who want something for nothing, get a life! |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Nov. 21, 2008 |
| Posted by Fisherman |
Why not just by the listing from Google Ads directly? What advantage does NetBiz or any other SEP offer? |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Dec. 3, 2008 |
| Posted by Chris |
I've been in sales for a long time and it amazes me that 99% of people are so STUPID they can't even remember what they are buying. Then when it's all said and done ..they think what they should be getting not what they agreed to and suddenly it's the companys fault.
I worked for netbiz.com. Was even promoted. This company does SEP..which for you ignorant pukes means " SEARCH ENGINE PLACEMENT". This is in no way an optimization. If you subscribe to their service on Google you will be under "ONE" phrase on ONE page of google. For instance "Houston Real Estate" is what you'd be under not ....."Real Estate Houston". or a combination of the both unless you paid for the other phrase as well.
SEP does not work on a variance of words. Just one specific phrase. You will not get placement because someone typed in all 3 words radomly. It's the stated phrase! Get it.
They Gurantee first page placement on whatever they sell to you. They will not put anyone else there. However other companies and do it yourselfers will be placing ad's on that page. So when you think it's reserved just for you...Grow up a little will ya....
So what if the rep doesnt know how they put you online...they have an entire department that handles the technical issue...but heres the short and skinny on it...They submit your phrase to google then they bid on a daily basis and pay for it to keep you there....you satisfied now....next time your out and need something ask the rep or the associate about where the product comes from and how they make it ...if they can't answer the question then I geuss you shouldnt fill your prescription at the pharmacy!
There is a start up fee..OF COURSE...what company doesn't. Why don't you bitch about install fee's for your cable or satellite or start up fees for insurance? Because thats the industry. Why should other companies change because your too cheap to want to pay for a real service you agreed too!
Or better yet for the realtors why dont you give up your finders fee on a house to better a relationship with another real estate company...Or give a percentage of your commision back to the buyers in good faith so they will buy another house from you...
It's disgusting what people want....They think 50.00 phrases are kick ass ..LOL...you need to be spending a couple hundred between SEP and SEO for what you want to accomplish....
When I was at netbiz there was a female realtor that was spending 100.00 a month for her phrase. She paid the 79.95 start up fee. She sold 3 houses from this ad in like 4 months. "this can happen but not typical"...You know what she did after selling the houses...Dropped the ad....%^&*)#@ what a world class idiot...My point is people you get what you pay for and sometimes alot more. ..some people are too stupid to not know when they have a good thing!!
The next time you hear from netbiz.com listen to what they have to say. Ask questions find out if they have other options for you. Keep in mind the beat down kick ass phrase is gonna cost you some $$ If you wanna be a big dog...put the money up like big dogs do... having a presence on the web which we all use is better than being in the dark ages and having not ONE single chance of being found. If your that good at what you do and your service is ROCKIN ...you should be able to afford to expand on it right......
I know longer work at netbiz.com. Noir do I have the desire to go back. It's a fight to get people to see the next generation of advertising and it's benefits.....
Look online at your copmpetitors the largest most succesful will be on alot of pages on google and yahoo and all over. They will also be in local magaizines maybe on tv and radio...This costs a fortune ...how do you think they stay the largest tho?...
Stop saving up to be a jew ...and fork out some cash..you might just get some in return if your pay attention! |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Dec. 3, 2008 |
| Posted by chris |
I forgot...the benefit of having camponies do your SEO or SEP is that they have teams of techinacal geeks that submit yourd ad's and phrases.
There is a constant bidding war to be on the first page. If your sitting at home all day and not dealing with clients then maybe you can bid 15 times a day. You probably change your own oil and grind your own coffe and mill the boards you build your fence with too right?
It's a concienence to have them do it.. You pay for what you agreed too and thats all. No work ionvolved. Besides netbiz put you not only on the first page but in the sponsored links..the ones that aren obviously to everyone that they are paying to be there... they place people typically at the top...enhancing your chances of someone clicking on you.......
we all have different skills and experience... If you think you can compete with netbiz or other companies then start your won advertising...when your thoroughly pissed and exhausted call netbiz or any other company they will gladly do the job for you and for the most part probably cheaper because they understand the industry and you obviously dont....
I'm not generally bias on things.... but most people I've seen complain anywhere are horrible people to do business with..sometimes a company will screw up...let them make it right...generally speaking most people complain about services because they are too ignorant to understand what they agreed too and dont ask the right questions... |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Dec. 22, 2008 |
| Posted by John Scevola |
Why have a website if your customers can’t find it? If you have a business website, and want it to be a lead generator, you know you need to be on the first page of Google and/or YAHOO! for the keywords people type in when searching for your product or service. Otherwise, your competitors will get this business uncontested.
If your website already shows up organically/naturally on a search engine’s first page, now is the time to maximize your online exposure. SEO studies conclude that two front page SERP (Search Engine Results Page) positions, (i.e. one organic and one Sponsored Links/Pay-Per-Click) ad, can drive your company’s credibility through the roof.
Sure, you can sign up for a Google Adwords account and experiment with a Pay-Per-Click campaign on your own. However, do you really want to, or can even afford to: spend hours on research and then take chances with wrong conclusions; risk uncertain, volatile costs; be swindled by “Click Fraud,” spend many stressful hours throughout the day bidding and monitoring your ad positions. You’ll have to if you want to always stay on the first SERP in order to brand your company’s name, and be available for leads.
NetBiz.com, a Google Adwords Qualified Company, is “Making the Internet Easy.” The NetBiz Search Engine Placement (SEP) Program guarantees your website this first page position with Google and/or YAHOO!. NetBiz SEP is limited to one company per search phrase on a first come – first served basis. Your website will be placed in the Sponsored Links section (located at the top and/or right side of the SERP) on a month-to-month basis with no contract required. If necessary, NetBiz will bump one of your competitors off the first page in order to place your guaranteed ad there. You will pay a low, fixed, monthly fee (as low as $50.00/month depending on traffic and competition) and not have to worry about PPC (Pay-Per-Click) charges.
Why not let the knowledgeable advisory staff at NetBiz research “where the fish are really biting” and custom tailor a package that will fit your company’s marketing and budgetary needs. Based on our years of exceptional internet marketing success we will also design ads for you that will have high Google SERP relevance and also grab your prospect’s attention. Then, the NetBiz Customer Service Team will efficiently monitor and bid your account to always keep you on Google’s and/or YAHOO’s first page. Guaranteed!
Utilizing Netbiz Search Engine Placement is a cost effective internet marketing strategy because it frees up your time so that you can capitalize on your core business competency. Our SEO competitors are jealous of the huge success, over 10,000 clients worldwide, and great BBB record that NetBiz has achieved over the last six years
Why wait? Prospects are looking for your products and services on the internet today! Call us toll-free at 1-800-847-2226. NetBiz will help you to get the highest return on your advertising investment and put your site ahead of your customers and your competition. |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Jan. 29, 2009 |
| Posted by Jack Statsor |
Don't believe this group of telemarketing hacks. Your hard earned money is paying for them to post you on seldom searched keywords. Do yourself a favor and find an ethical company that really does what it says.
What a sham. |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Feb. 2, 2009 |
| Posted by Larry |
I suggest strongly that you do your homework on this company before commiting your resources to them. They are stuck with a horrible reputation that is not unfounded.
My SEO guy handles my PPC campaign and does it effectively and cheaply. Steer yourself clear of aggressive telemarketers shoving their call scripts down your throats in an attempt to frighten, intimidate and ultimately get your business. Instead find yourself a reputable service provider who are moral and happy to share information about your website activity. They do exist! |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Feb. 5, 2009 |
| Posted by Costa Rica Ken |
I have had a Fishing charter company for several years now. I one day answered the phone, and to my suprise there was a lovely young lady on the other end. I am a scheptic and told her that I was not interested, and thought that my buisness was doing good. Then I thought to myself...Good? I want better than good. So I called the company back and could not remember her name and listened to a list of employees and found her. Jessica is an honest, good natured, and fun to talk to. Not pushy at all. She put me on the first page under the phrase selected as promissed. Well... I am doing alot better than good now. I have expanded my fleet from one charter boat to now four and possibly my fifth. I have read alot of negative remarks on here. I guess if you are a cheapskate and not willing to try a service of advertising that WORKS, then you should give up andstart sending a resume out and work for someone else that knows what WORKS!!! Thats my two cents$$ If you are someone that is looking for some extra advertising, give Jessica a call and ask her all your questions that you may have. |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Feb. 24, 2009 |
| Posted by M. Fisher |
I was contacted by a sales agent of Netbiz this morning who offered me the "top of the front page, 24/7" of Google responses to 4 keywords regarding my business, for a flat monthly rate plus set-up fee. I asked for printed info which was faxed to me. In spite of extreme clarity that I would be the only one being rented this top spot, and that everyone else would move about below me, the printed info only stated "front page". Upon questioning this, I was told that when my web page was good enough I would move up on the page, and that the "quality" of the web site I have was what the "scores" were based on to place my listing. SCAM,SCAM,SCAM. Good businesses don't deceive or mislead. Netbiz does. Rick Sullivan wasted my time. |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - May. 19, 2009 |
| Posted by james |
Yeah I worked at NetBiz. Its a joke, they say they can do all this for you and its true, they will put you on the front page of a specific search term, but.... it may only be a search that has on average1-2 clicks per day. yeah you might as well stand on a street corner with a sign in your hand dancing to your IPOD for marketing. In the office they are always talking about how they arent telemarketers... BS.... those sales reps are making 65% commisions on each purchase, you wonder why they sell you at all cost. I worked there for a week and saw it for what it really was... quick bux with no concern for true success of the customers... Dont get me wrong, there are some great people that work there, it's too bad they are waisting their time there. remember anytime they come at you with a search term that is less than 800 dollars its not worth it.... they use google adwords for their prices and then inflate them by 30%...hmmm my advice, get your own adwords account and do it yourself. Google qualified company? there are 5 people at the corporate office that are certified adwords users.....hmmm i wish it wasn't grosssly over exagerated... Lastly, remember they promise first page placement on your search in the sponsored links. Fact is 99% of consumers click on organic links, i never even considered clicking a sponsored link prior to working there.
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Jun. 29, 2009 |
| Posted by Jamison |
James-
You said you worked their for a week? It's no wonder you have such a negative perception of the company. You have no idea of who Netbiz.com is and who they stand for.
My guess is that you had a terrible first week and didn't have any success, so you decided that it was the company's fault for your failure.
Netbiz.com is NOT ALLOWED to sell phrases that are getting little to no traffic. As with buying a $50 phrase; you get what you pay for. We wouldn't even be selling the $50 placements if they didn't work as we're a MONTH to MONTH company and we want to keep our customer's business, but we also want our customers to be successful as well.
Making commission is a part of any sales job and it's important, but KEEPING the customer is even more important, and you'll only do that by being honest and giving them a good product, both things that Netbiz.com does an excellent job with.
Lastly, do your research before you start spewing out incorrect falsehoods. Netbiz.com wouldn't have over 40,000 customers WORLDWIDE if it wasn't doing something right. Placement has been proven to be much more effective than optimization as it places you on the front page PERMANENTELY on a month-to-month basis. Just because you don't click on sponsered links doesn't mean that other people aren't.
I'm not looking for a fight here, but don't use your unsuccessful "week" at the company as the basis for your argument. It's a straw house. |
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RE: NetBiz.com and SEO - Aug. 12, 2009 |
| Posted by Mike |
You know, I worked at Netbiz for a few months and found the job enjoyable! The people are great, the managers a awesome and you cant beat the pay for the ammount of hours you actually work. The Idea of people ranting about netbiz being a scam is completely false! they do exactly what they say they are going to do! $50 terms are the lowest they have on Google. That doesnt mean that they are the worst terms, but that they arnt getting searched a whole lot. the more expencive the term, the more it is searched. Sure, you can set up your own adwords account, google makes a grip of money from people who do that. If you do set up your own account, there are many many things to watch out for such as: daily budget, up and down times, bidding price, ect... the Net biz slogan is "making the internet easy" and they do just that. They charge a flat fee for a service... Sure, you could "do it yourself" on alot of things, you can save money on oral surgery by getting your own set of pliers, but shoulnt you call the dentist?
Netbiz is not a scam. |
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