Jun. 9, 2008 - Make And Model Revisited
Just like the different types of Community Associations, the laws that apply come all shapes and sizes too. For instance, there are three different types of state laws, or statutes, that apply to Community Associations. You have your general, your specific, and your uniform types.
A general statute applies to Community Associations as well as other types of organizations. If your association is incorporated, which most are, then the corporate laws of you state apply to your association/corporation.
Specific statutes are association specific. Mostly they exist to to provide for the establishment and operation of a community as a legal entity. Some of them regulate development and sale. Some provide protection for purchasers, owners, and tenants. Some regulate operation. The specific statutes are probably the most important type. They take precedence over the declaration and bylaws. Since they can be amended by the state legislature it is important to stay on top of them if you want to be a home owner who is in the know.
Only about one third of the states have adopted any uniform statues. The National Conference on Uniform State Laws is attempting to get a standardized set of statutes going but there is some resistance. For a person who moves around a lot, or owns properties in multiple states, the adoption of uniform laws regarding association living could be a real blessing.
So you see, there is a little more to community association living than just offer, acceptance, and move in. An educated homeowner, is a happy homeowner, indeed.
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Jun. 6, 2008 - What Makes Them Think They Can Do THAT?
Many a disgruntled new homeowner, having just moved into a community association with out being made aware of what they are getting into, has lamented over that question. Hopefully there is someone around who can answer that, but if not, let me give it a try.
If a community is being run properly most of the decisions made by its Board of Directors are not as arbitrary as they may seem. A community has certain legal obligations that are derived from many different sources. First and foremost there are federal, state and local statues and regulations that must be adhered to. There is a whole body of case law that attests to that. If you do not want to take my word for it just google court decisions regarding community associations. Then there are legal documents that are specific to each community association that bind the association and the owners. These documents would include declarations and by laws, rules and regulations, board resolutions, etc, etc.
As if that was not enough, there are lender requirements to contend with. Some lenders will balk at giving mortgages in a residential community that has too high of a percentage of non owner occupied, or investor owned unit. Getting an FHA loan in a community that has a first right of refusal built in to the declaration can sometimes be problematic.
Sometimes the decisions are based around standards that are set by other professional associations, like the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants for instance.
There are many outside sources that define the existence, activities, and actions of a community association and that, my friends, is what makes them think they can do THAT.
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Jun. 5, 2008 - Checking Out The Make And Model
Basically, the are three different types residential community associations. Some of them even have sub species. Allow me to expound.
First you have your Planned Community. In this type of community the homeowner owns their dwelling and the piece of land the dwelling is built on. All of the common areas and usually the amenities such as swimming pools, roads, clubhouse, tennis courts, etc., are owned by the community. If you live in, or are considering a community like this then you will be a member of either a Homeowners Association (HOA), an Owners Association, a Townhouse Association, a Property Owners Association (POA), or a Planned Unit Development (PUD).
The next model is the Condominium. When you live in one of these you are the proud owner of your living unit and an undivided interest in, or a percentage of the common elements. The common elements are everything except the actual living units. They can include things like the pool, the lobby, the corridors, the garage area, etc. The community association as a whole does not own any real estate.
That brings us to the third type, the Cooperative. What you own if you live in one of these is stock in the cooperative and a proprietary lease, also know as an occupancy agreement for your living unit. This lease defines your rights and obligations as they pertain to the living unit. The community association, which is usually set up as a not for profit corporation, owns all of the real estate.
Any one of these three types of associations can be stand alone or clustered. If they are clustered they are general either a Master or Umbrella Association, or a Mixed Use Development. The former would consist of more than one residential community association and the latter would consist of a mixture of residential, commercial, and maybe industrial use properties.
So you see, because each of these different associations depend upon a different form of ownership, it is very important that you, and more importantly your REALTOR®, know what you are getting into before you decide to buy in. Everybody will be happier if you know what you are getting into.
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Jun. 3, 2008 - So Let Me Repeat Myself
Since I am pounding on the subject of Community Associations and the importance of what you should know before you consider moving into one, I feel a bit of review may be necessary. Whether it be a Condominium, Townhouse, Co-op, or a detached single family home in a Home Owners Association, the primary reason people find association living attractive is that the association is looking out for the governance, the business, and the communal aspects of the associations members, the homeowners. By the establishment of of a system of property rights, covenants and restrictions, and rules and regulations the association is administered, maintained, and enhanced for the best interest of it's members. If you don't know anything about it, you need to research an association just like you would a new town that you might consider moving into. In essence you are moving into a little government where the over all community is going to be run like a business. If you are the kind of person that needs to be free to march to your own drummer a Community Association is probably not for you.
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May. 15, 2008 - A Rose By Any Other Name
Sometimes I tend to forget that all real estate is local and that the same thing has different names in different locals. Also, the same thing might be referred to by different names in different circles. Therefore when I posed the question "What exactly is a Community Association?" I seem to have caused some confusion. Let me try to straighten that out.
The term Community Association is probably the most common moniker. It is the term I use. It is also the term used by The Community Association Institute and The Florida Bureau of Condominiums. I am sure it is widely used by others as well.
If you are speaking to someone from The National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws you would hear them referring to a Community Association as a Common-Interest Community or CIC for short.
Then there is The American Institute of Certified Public Accountants who likes to refer to a Community Association as a Common Interest Realty Association or CIRA.
Once you get way out west The California Department of Real Estate refers to a Community Association as a Common Interest Development or CID.
Now that I have cleared that up, what do you call a Community Association?
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May. 14, 2008 - What Exactly Is A Community Association?
I have long maintained that if you don't know what you are selling you should not be selling it. The same thing goes for buyers, if you don't know what you are buying you should not be buying it. There is a saving grace for buyers however, and that is a knowledgeable REALTOR®.
If you, as a buyer, are considering moving into a Condominium, a Co-operative or a community with a Home Owners Association, you are considering moving into a Community Association and you need to ask your REALTOR® exactly what that means. If he or she alludes to the fact that it is anything other than a group of owners who are bound together for the purpose of providing a communal basis of preserving, maintaining, and enhancing their homes and property you need to move on to another REALTOR®. It doesn't have to be those exact words, but whatever they say should embrace the same spirit. It is a group of owners whose property brings them together with a common cause.
You should also be told that there are three important points to consider. When you buy into a Community Association membership in the Association is not optional. You will be bound by certain documents that govern the Community Association. The assessments that are levied in order to operate and maintain the Community Association are mandatory. In other words, you are going to have to abide by the governing documents of the Community Association so you had better review them and make sure they are something you can live with before you make an offer to purchase. Once the purchase of the property has closed you are an assessment paying member of the Association and that should be a beautiful and harmonious thing.
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Feb. 6, 2008 - And The Survey Said.................
There are many reasons why people move into Community Associations. In case you are not sure what a Community Association is, let me try to make it clear. A Community Association is a place where all of the homes are loosely bound together for the common good. It could be a community of townhouses, much like my buddy Steve lives in. It could be a Condominium, much like I live in. It could be a gated community of detached single family homes. It could be a Cooperative like The Dakota in New York where John Lennon, God rest his soul, used to live.
The thing that all of these types of homes have in common is that they have governing documents, Declaration and By-laws and Rules and Regulations. Sometimes, depending on what State you are in, there are also State Laws pertaining to this sort of living. These documents are in place to bring order to the common good of the Association, the Association being made up of all of the home owners in the community.
People who do not live within an Association can pretty much do as they please with their property as long as they obey Federal, State and Local laws. People who live within a Community Association need to obey these same laws plus the rules outlined in the governing documents of the Association. Just like we elect our Federal, State and Local officials, Community Association are usually required to elect a Board of Directors. They are also usually incorporated as a not for profit organization. They need to run as both little governments and a little business'.
This is why I have repeatedly bemoaned the fact that there are real estate agents out there running around selling homes to people with out the benefit of educating them as to what they are getting into. Here comes a client that says "We are pre-approved for $xxx,xxx". The agent says "Hmmmmm, in this market maybe we should look at condominiums. They are a real good place for first time home buyers. They are affordable and the assessments include heat, water, garbage removal, landscaping and snow removal. You won't have a back yard for your VietNamese Pot Bellied Pig to play in, but that's OK, I'm sure it will be able to enjoy some fresh air from the balcony".
These people turn out to be unhappy. They never knew that there were pet restrictions in the rules. Sure, the agent faxed the contract to the Attorney for review. Sure the Attorney obtained a copy of the Declaration and By-laws, the Rules and Regulations and The current Budget and Financial Statement as per the contract. The problem is that nobody took the time to read them. Everybody figured that they were "boiler plate", you've seen one, you've seen them all. That's a big mistake, especially for the buyers themselves, but they were probably not specifically told to read them.
I believe that people who know what they are buying into are for the most part happy. That brings me to the survey. The Foundation for Community Association Research sponsored a National Survey which was designed to measure how residents perceived their Community Associations. I only wish I had the funds to commission a firm as prestigious as Zogby International to survey the residents of Community Associations to see how they feel about the real estate agents that put residents who are under educated as to what they are buying into into their communities.
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Jan. 4, 2008 - Loss Mitigation
First and foremost, since I have ignored my blog for about a month, let me take this opportunity to say that I hope your Holidays (whatever it is you celebrate) were everything you were hoping they would be. Fortunately I am back here in time to wish you health, happiness and prosperity in 2008.
On Christmas Eve some dastardly evil doer stole the table out of the lobby of the Condominium in which I live. Since I am the President of the Board of Directors it fell to me to file the police report. Des Plaines Police Officer Mike Meyers (honest) showed up and asked the usual questions. "Any signs of forced entry"? "No sir". "Anybody report any suspicious characters on the premises"? "No sir".
There was no forced entry because no one has to force their way in. As much as you harp on the fact that there are rules and regulations that need to be adhered to when you live in a Condominium environment, many people apparently think that they do not apply to them. There is a reason you are asked to wait until the garage door closes behind you before you pull off. There is a reason you are required to greet the delivery man, the pizza man and anybody else you don't personally know in the lobby. That reason is security, loss mitigation if you will.
Thieves are wily enough without a member of the association giving them free access to the building. They have been know to follow the mailman into the building or come in the garage door while the waste hauler is rolling the dumpster to the garbage truck. There isn't too much you can do about that.
That's why, as a part of Condominium living, you, the resident of a Condominium, have to do everything in your power to help secure your environment.
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Sep. 25, 2007 - Buying Into A Little Government
The other day, when I was visiting one of the many forums I read
daily, a real estate agent asked a question about a
Condominium Association that changed the rental rules for the
association. The agent's clients had asked the
question. That prompted the agent to ask other agents.
I was in one of my replying moods and it went like this:
"As a REALTOR® and the President of the Board of
Directors of my Condominium Association I see countless REALTORS®
indulging in the listing and sales of condominiums before they are
able to answer condominium specific questions. Not only should they
familiarize themselves with The Illinois Condominium Property Act,
but they need to go over the Declaration and Bylaws and the Rules
and Regulations of each specific Association in which they wish to
do business. They would also be doing themselves and their
clients a favor if they read Article 11 of the NAR Code of
Ethics.
Many residents in condominiums do not realize the importance
of attending association meetings, checking the bulletin board,
reading the association newsletters, etc. This is partly due to the
fact that they are never educated to the fact that they will be
buying into a small government, not just a dwelling place. They are
given a copy (or should be) of the Declaration and Bylaws,
Rules and Regulations, and the budget, for perusal during attorney
review.
Unfortunately, some Associations are run by a Board of
Dictators as opposed to a Board of Directors. If this is the case,
and they do not operate in accordance with the Declaration and
Bylaws as laid out in The Illinois Condominium Property Act, then
your client most definitely can appeal with the help of a competent
Attorney who is well versed in Condominium Law (Robert Nesbit comes
to mind, look him up). However, if the Declaration and Bylaws was
legally amended and your client just wasn't paying attention
then the rules are the rules and there isn't much they
do.
The best way to avoid all of this distress is, as a REALTOR®,
know what you are selling and only sell what you know."
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May. 31, 2006 - More Condo Or Co-op
The infamous author of Columbus Best Blog, Maureen McCabe asked me if we have Co-ops in Chicagoland. Why yes Maureen, we sure do.
As I said yesterday, there is more to said about the differences between the two forms of ownership, so why don't I just say some of it now? Remember I said in a condominium you own your unit and in a cooperative you own shares of stock in the corporation that owns the building and you get a proprietary lease to live in one of the units. A proprietary lease means you get to occupy the unit as if you actually owned it.
Co-ops are popular among people who like to kind of choose their own neighbors. By way of setting their own rules they can exclude people who don't fit within their chosen parameters. Since they are actually selling stock in a corporation and not real property so to speak, they can be rather discriminatory about who they let in and who they don't. There have been celebrities who have been denied ownership in co-ops because the other share holders believed that the peace and quiet of their building would be upset by having famous residents. Florida is teaming with co-ops that are age restrictive.
Most of the time you have to pay cold hard cash for a co-op. In a condo, the governing body (the association) can always put a lien on your unit if you fall behind in your assessment. The lender can secure your loan by means of a mortgage lien on your unit. You can't very well put a mortgage on a stock certificate now, can you? And since the other share holders in the co-op would be really thrown off kilter by someone getting into the red on their assessments, you can be pretty sure that you will undergo a very deep, grueling intrusion into your finances if you should desire to live in a co-op.
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May. 30, 2006 - Condo Or Co-op
As strange as it may seem, I have gotten an inquiry from Mark in the Los Angeles, California area, about the difference between a condominium and a co-operative. I knew I was almost famous, but nation wide????????
I can see how, to the naked eye, a condo and a co-op might look pretty much the same. Which ever one you live in, you are still pretty much an apartment dweller. The difference is in what you own.
In a condominium you own the unit in which you live, plus a predetermined percentage of the common areas such as the lobby, hallways, elevator, etc.
In a co-operative you own shares of stock in the corporation that holds title to the building and you are granted a proprietary lease to live in one of the units.
In either situation you are still paying assessments for the operation of the building and the up keep of the common areas. This is usually in the form of a month payment.
There is more to be said on the subject, but time is tight and I have to stop for now. I guess you'll just have to keep coming back, eh?
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Feb. 7, 2006 - Who's Looking Out For You?
When it comes to condominium living there's nothing to it right? Make sure the mortgage and the assessments are paid on time and that's the end of that. No more grass to cut or snow to shovel, the trash will magically disappear when you drop it down the chute and the common areas remain clean and updated all by themselves. Even if you have a problem, chances are you will bump into a board member you can dump it on. They don't mind, they asked for the job.
I suppose that in a well run condominum this would all appear to be true. A good Board of Directors is an important asset, but in order for them to look good they need the support and the input of an even better Management Company. A good management company knows the Illinois Condominium Property Act by heart. They have read and read again the Declaration and Bylaws that govern your association. They can quote your Rules and Regulations chapter and verse. They stay accessable. From experience, they can anticipate your every need before you even know you have one.
Having had to deal with many different management companies in the course of my real estate career, I can safely say I know a good one when I see one. Who might that be, you ask. That would be Summit Management Specialists, Inc.
Check them out and tell them Gene sent you.
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